Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
(Post 10144836)
The West, 12 May 2018
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Originally Posted by Captain Gidday
(Post 10147091)
I'd be looking at Kalgoorlie as the pick of WA. Big enough town with enough facilities and spare accommodation to support a school of this size [Not talking about Hay Street here]. Two or three trains and about four airline services per day linking back to Perth. Great weather nearly all the time and meets all the airport requirements I think. Not too much traffic: airline F28s, charter aircraft and Air Force training jets currently come and go, but not excessive. All the empty sky that anyone could possibly want.
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YPKG and YCUN don’t have an ILS so unless their submissions include the addition of those facilities they’re going to be a long way behind some other contenders. |
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Oh, so that's why the only place in Tasmania ASA only offer CPL/ATPL exams is Launy........ despite the existing schools in the state that offer professional courses all being in Hobart... It finally makes sense!!!
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Originally Posted by Jeps
(Post 10143605)
The powers at be probably wouldn’t like the truth bombs Keg and others are dropping here. It kinda smells like RedQ....if they do manage it at some point it won’t be in 12 months time. |
A major criteria is also the weather. I doubt Launy or Hobart would meet that.
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https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...for%20Tamworth
This ad on AFAP leads me to believe its going to Tamworth with CAE/Oxford |
I think that’s “... the powers THAT be...” just sayin’ |
That AFAP job add mentions award plus 10%. I haven’t checked the award but would it be reasonable to say it’s hardly attractive |
Originally Posted by glekichi
(Post 10156788)
Oh, so that's why the only place in Tasmania ASA only offer CPL/ATPL exams is Launy........ despite the existing schools in the state that offer professional courses all being in Hobart... It finally makes sense!!!
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Tamworth
Originally Posted by Power
(Post 10171740)
https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...for%20Tamworth
This ad on AFAP leads me to believe its going to Tamworth with CAE/Oxford |
CAE just moved all there Indian cadets to Tamworth and are struggling to get instructors they are offering bonuses and housing allowances for Moorabbin based instructors to move. They moved all their diamonds up there and apparently 50% are sitting idle.
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Originally Posted by swells
(Post 10171779)
exams are now also done in Hobart
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Tamworth is the logical place for one of the schools. Remember the BAE/ADF facility closes down when that training moves to RAAF Sale. All is in place including accommodation etc and direct QFLink services to HQ in Sydney
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I also can’t see why anyone would go past Tamworth to be honest, it ticks all the boxes for everything. |
I also can’t see why anyone would go past Tamworth to be honest, it ticks all the boxes for everything. |
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Shortlist from the post above
I'd be surprised if it didn't go to Tamworth or Wagga Wagga. But I've been surprised before! |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 10178884)
I'd be surprised if it didn't go to Tamworth or Wagga Wagga. But I've been surprised before! https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...25c5a28e8.jpeg The island Is for sale. |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 10178884)
I'd be surprised if it didn't go to Tamworth or Wagga Wagga. But I've been surprised before! Wouldn't Alice Springs be the obvious site ---- "fair to all the states and territories" being equally inconvenient for everybody, with limited distractions for the cadets --- unless bar brawls are your preferred entertainment, and a few other "attractions" that are probably best left unsaid. Tootle pip!! |
I thought having an ILS was one of the requirements? |
The QF article mentioned, their aim is to have 2 locations, as they won't be able to accommodate the training output from a single site.
One of the training locations should have an ILS and be located close to other navaids. Alice Springs: I don't think so. Dust storms, also students can get lost on navex's due to it's remoteness. Wagga Wagga: A major flying school is there. Dubbo: Could be one of the locations. Tamworth: Yes. For the advanced training part also it's close to Dubbo. My pick: Dubbo and Tamworth. |
What about Toowoomba welcamp. Use Oakey ils.
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Probably finally depends on how much ($) they (QF) can coax out of which state government to make it happen ! |
Surely thoughts would need to take into account where the FI’s might want to be based. Not like there here is an abundance of those about these days.... |
No doubt they’ll be dangled a carrot by QF. ”Give us x years and you can apply via the EOI...” Meanwhile training people who will be ahead of you in seniority.. Does this mean that the QF group will start employing fewer ex flight instructors so as to not drain the pond too much? Offer them the “Thanks but no thanks” email with a “but... we have a flying school if you’d like a job.” |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10179051)
What about Toowoomba welcamp. Use Oakey ils.
Launceston out for the weather. Alice Springs last for sure ! |
Yeah tbar is a no brainer. No competition. Ils 10nm away. Army is shrinking ita operations there. Great there city to live in nearby. Private airport run by a pragmatic businessman. Empty airport with plenty of room for an academy. 1.5h from Brisbane (by car). Centerally located in Australia...... The list goes on.
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The whole thing is a con, no business person in their right mind would put their own money into such a project. Every boom is followed by a bust, so any hapless investor who gets stooged with this one best have deep pockets because as we all know only too well the bust will last for years. ( That is why Q want others to finance it and take the risks ).
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I don't think Dubbo could be an option for the new QF flying academy, watched tonight's news, there's too much crime lately in the area,
compared to the rest of the state (NSW). Reckon, Tamworth and Toowoomba/wellcamp airport could be the best picks. |
I reckon Dubbo would be a shoe in if the School is headed up with the former Airlink boss DM as CFI. His instructional techniques and motivational skills are second to none! :} |
Originally Posted by Don Diego
(Post 10179772)
The whole thing is a con, no business person in their right mind would put their own money into such a project. Every boom is followed by a bust, so any hapless investor who gets stooged with this one best have deep pockets because as we all know only too well the bust will last for years. ( That is why Q want others to finance it and take the risks ).
Airlines need pilots otherwise Operating Revenue drops to zero. It would seem self evident that a steady supply of pilots would be considered a strategic imperative. Unfortunately Qantas is not about being an airline. Airlines are hard work. In the minds of the creative folk in marketing every little bit of what ought be a strategic and therefore expeditiously researched, funded and operational structure, is spun for all it is worth. Like the junket announcing the 'first 787' for Qantas conveniently ignored the other 600 odd flying and indeed the 11 in service with JQ, this whole thing is all tip no iceberg. |
From the SMH:
'Qantas has asked regional cities and state governments to apply to host the new school, and has whittled the bids down to 10 - Alice Springs (Northern Territory), Bendigo (Victoria), Busselton (Western Australia), Toowoomba (Queensland), Launceston (Tasmania), and Dubbo, Tamworth and Wagga Wagga (NSW).' Yeah I only count 8......but my money is on Toowoomba. We taking bets? |
PA - article omitted Mackay. |
When they say Toowoomba, are they talking Wellcamp or the Toowoomba town airport? |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 10187331)
When they say Toowoomba, are they talking Wellcamp or the Toowoomba town airport? |
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHGTI
Oxford been travelling to Tamworth. I'm not too sure if thats part of their training flights, or their management team heading there for meetings or site inspections? A typical off Moorabbin landing lasts for 20-30mins, but Tamworth trips have been more than that. |
Army is shrinking ita operations there New control tower being built at the base. Only Kiowas leaving... |
Qantas has asked regional cities and state governments to apply to host the new school Capacity to build own facilities |
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