Fleet Transiitttiionn.... oh wait what did JQ just do?
 

Tigers had so many 'original plans' since it's inception that they have all gotten lost & gone down the toilet! Once upon a time the idea's where coming think & fast, none worthy of long term plans to this day!
CASA must shake their heads!!!

From memory, the later builds had some aerodynamic clean-ups, but the difference to operating costs is probably the width of a bee's appendage. Apart from getting closer to C or D check intervals, the cost difference between new and old should me minimal. VA have a bunch of older 737s effectively coming back on their balance sheet over the next few years from their 2015 enhanced equipment note issue, so the ownership costs on those older jets are minimal. But mainline doesn't want more capacity so some of them get shunted to TTIn theory, that means that TT's overheads come down, and they can tap into the wider VA group maintenance and spares arrangements, everyone wins.

All of which ignores that A320 fleet that TT has operated from day dot, a number of which are leased out to 2023 on quite high rates due to the shortage of frames when the previous owners signed the leases. Which, by the way, aren't as easy to break as it was probably assumed.

So some of those get shunted across to VARA as its mining clients look to up-scale for major construction projects, and hey they operate A320s anyway so all good right? But VARA's business model is based on low utilisation using clapped-out and mid-life A320s, not the rates that are being paid for the TT birds. But, hey, there is work for them on mining charter, supplementing mainline and the Christmas/Cocos work is about to pick up now ScoMo has reopened the detention centre there.

All the while, the TT drivers are sick of their pay talks being stalled for so long, unsteady management that really doesn't five a flying fvck about the unit, cock-ups in catering, and being forced to make a million changes on the fly to schedules etc.

I'm an outsider, but is that a fair summary of the state of play?

sorry 'ebt' you sugar coated the real Tigers within, you painted a rosy picture by comparison as to what really goes on inside the clusterfcku castle!
Never have I seen such a dysfunctional Airline that continues to defy the laws of gravity!

As I said, machtuk, I'm just an outsider looking in at the absolute hash that VA have made of TT, so can't comment on what happens on the inside. But put it this way, if what we see on the outside reflects even a bit of what's happening on the inside, then the poor girls and blokes on the front line need a lot of help. Borg's isn't going to do it in his last few weeks, so over to Scurrah.

Have no fear as this is Women's Day and Lady Merrin rides in to to save Tiger. [see today's Australian]

And she's delivered the EBA! (With 100% Fixed-ish rosters!) :ugh:

Don't have the payscales, but the fixed rosters will have two pattern choices I believe. VARA doing the next roster so that should be fun. (I'm assuming they've started on it by now though)

Around Capt $220K & F/O usually 60% of that, approx.
It's not a happy camp but hey no one forced them to join!

Captain $215,000
FO Level 3 (> 5 years) $144.050 (67%)
FO Level 2 (2-5 years) $137,600 (64%)
FO Level 1 (< 2 years) $118,250 (55%)

2.5% CPI increase each December. Based on 60 hour month. Overtime in excess of 60 hours = CA $170/hr and FO $85/hr.

Looks like there's also a few other bits and pieces (Sign-on bonus CA 10k and FO 6.7k, Move-to-fixed roster lump sum payment CA 3k and FO 2k , paxing allowance payment CA $40/block hr and FO $20/block hr).

Disappointing to see the FO overtime and paxing rate is only 50% of CA rate.

PG

PS. These details from the "Ballot Version" TT Pilots 2019 EA that was forwarded to me

I think VAA captain has significantly more days off than a Tiger Captain. The new EBA is also yielding quite a few extra days above the minimum.

Whats the change to the Tiger rostering?

Being done by VARA now. OCC will probably head there too.

The Tiger EA document shows:

137 days off annually
plus
29 days annual leave

PG

VAA standby pilot (13 for 13 rosters) is 169 and 42 annual leave (211).
VAA non standby (11 and 12 alternating 13 rosters) is 149 and 42 annual leave (191).

With new EBA most are getting a few more days than the EBA minimum.

Vs Tiger 166 total.

The salary is indeed close when you bring the hours up to 69 but if you’re going to do that you have to look at how much time you have at home as well for the apples with apples comparison. To be fair the best comparison would be with Jetstar.

Anyway best of luck to the TT guys and girls.