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blakmax 18th Jan 2018 08:53

MH 122 Syd KL diverted to Alice Springs due to "Technical Issues"
 
Reports on Australian ABC24 that MH122 Syd to KL diverted to Alice Springs for technical reasons.

Airbubba 18th Jan 2018 09:56

Some of the usual references:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...m-mtm#102853f6

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...216Z/YSSY/YBAS

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/yb...2018-0730Z.mp3

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/yb...2018-0800Z.mp3

WingNut60 18th Jan 2018 10:24

Quoting the West Australian newspaper:-


Flight MH122 was above Derby in remote WA when the pilot made the decision to land due to “technical reasons”, the airline said.

Passengers on board the flight, which departed Sydney at 1.35pm local time have told of their terror, taking to social media to tell how the plane’s crew were “preparing to crash”.
While the above is sure to elicit cries of woe over standards of aviation journalism, the truly frightening thing is that it actually and accurately reflects the current standard of ALL newspaper journalism.

Airbubba 18th Jan 2018 10:37

From the ATC tapes linked above, MH122 declared a PAN on descent into ASP.

Here's the classic 'I hoid a bang and I knew we wuz gonna die!' news coverage:


The husband of a passenger onboard a Malaysia Airlines flight forced to divert to Alice Springs says his wife has described the experience as "hell".

Flight MH122 was travelling from Sydney to Kuala Lumpur with 224 passengers onboard this afternoon when one of the Airbus A330-300 plane's engines is believed to have been shut down.

Chin Kanani said his wife became alarmed when she heard a banging sound.

"She said she was on the loo when she started hearing loud banging noises from the right-hand side of the plane and that's when all it started," Mr Kanani said.

"It was like hell this flight and they were told to be ready for an emergency landing."
Malaysia Airlines flight MH122 to Kuala Lumpur forced to divert to Alice Springs - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


‘Brace for impact’: Passengers terrified as Malaysia Airlines flight makes emergency landing in Alice Springs

By Sean Davidson
10:28pm Jan 18, 2018

A terrified passenger has told of how she "thought she was going to die" after crew on board a Malaysia Airlines flight told passengers to brace for impact when the plane started vibrating.

Flight MH122, an Airbus A330 heading to Kuala Lumpur from Sydney, was four hours into the flight when a "massive vibration" rocked the plane, forcing it to divert to Alice Springs.

"The lights had just been turned off and everyone was settled in," Donna Edwards, who was travelling to London, told 9news.com.au.

"All of sudden a massive vibration, the whole plane was shaking."

Ms Edwards said passengers were holding hands and bracing for 30 minutes before the crew announced everyone should "brace for impact".

"The fight attendant came on and said the pilot will give a 30-second warning before impact," she said.

"One of the crew stopped near us and one guy said ‘are we crashing or are we landing’.

"The crew member said 'I don't know'.

“We were just bracing for the worst. I thought I was going to die.

"But then 30 minutes later the crew said it was under control."
https://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-alice-springs

adsyj 18th Jan 2018 10:40

interesting choice for diversion. Was he running for Melb and had to put her down. Darwin would on the face of it seem the better initial option.

Airbubba 18th Jan 2018 10:51

A Twitter report from a pax:


Sanjeev Pandey

@sppandey81
1 hour ago

#malaysian airlines #mh122. Emergency landing at Alice Springs. The scariest part was that once the engine started to make a loud disturbing noise, the flight attendants all seemed nervous n clueless. For around 15 mins, there was no announcement.15 mins were as long as 15 hours!
The pilots were probably busy shutting down the engine, assessing the situation and evaluating options.

A timely update like Captain Eric Moody's classic PA would be helpful though:


Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.

megan 18th Jan 2018 11:05


Darwin would on the face of it seem the better initial option
Why? It's miles off track, whereas the Alice is on track, if he's going great circle it would put him 27nm abeam, but I'll assume he was planned overhead on the airway.

Capt Claret 18th Jan 2018 11:33


Originally Posted by megan (Post 10023421)
Why? It's miles off track, whereas the Alice is on track, if he's going great circle it would put him 27nm abeam, but I'll assume he was planned overhead on the airway.

Close to Derby when they turned around as shown on Flight Aware.

Derby - Alice ~694nm
Derby - Darwin ~ 516nm

Monsoon season so DRW weather might have been not so good.

I wonder why Broome was discounted?

1a sound asleep 18th Jan 2018 11:36

No pan call until near ASP. Looks like they were heading for MEL and then reality hit. Broome was 100 miles from point of diversion. Why were pax told to brace for impact at FL300 ? :rolleyes:

Ancient Mariner 18th Jan 2018 11:38

Trust me, as SFL, having an engine go bang is no fun. Happened to me, SAS B767 climbing out from Beijing. The aircraft was shaking so bad I expected my fillings to drop out. Then again you, as pax, have no clue what's going on and I fully expected a close encounter with the ragged mountains just below us.
On top of that they would not serve me another whisky while returning to land. Business class and all.
Per

krismiler 18th Jan 2018 11:57

At least he diverted to a suitable airport instead of continuing on like some people have done.

Pom Pax 18th Jan 2018 12:08


Monsoon season so DRW weather might have been not so good.
And the same applies for all of the Western Australian coastal airports.
However all of central Australia virtually cloud free.

RAT 5 18th Jan 2018 12:55

Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.

Should be on all command courses. I found there was so little guidance of suitable PA's in NNC's. Given the young age of some who might have to make one..........some help to keep the situation calm 'back there' IMHO is most welcome.

I'm not familiar with this region, or the airports they chose, but, as a generalism, the closest suitable may not be the nearest; in that, by the time you've completed your analysis, executed a checklist or 2, decided where to go reference weather and facilities and LDA, dug out the charts, planned the descent & approach, briefed all who need to be, you might have used up more time than a normal 20-25 minute descent. I hear some people say that you should drop into the airfield nearest underneath you, but if you do and then spend 10 mins holding, to finish up, you could have gone further to a more familiar/convenient/suitable airport with a full defence in place: it might even be your departure airport.

crwkunt roll 18th Jan 2018 13:16


Looks like they were heading for MEL and then reality hit.
Why would they be heading for Melbourne?

Ushuaia 18th Jan 2018 17:01


Originally Posted by crwkunt roll (Post 10023572)
Why would they be heading for Melbourne?

Exactly.

I think it's because the PPRune experts have determined so. The evidence supporting this, however, is rather scant.

Same same the nonsense above re bracing at FL300. Evidence? Oh, a media report about what passenger said. Must be fact then. PPRune has spoken. Not even 24 hours later.

Troubling, isn't it?

As for AS vs DN: I haven't even bothered to check old TAF's but can almost guarantee there would have been TS all over DN. Sounds like AS was a very smart choice by a couple of PROFESSIONAL pilots flying a twin with OEI.

wiggy 18th Jan 2018 17:31

+lots to many of the above comments.

Broome may not have been an authorised airfield for the type involved..we fly over that part of the world in a big twin and it is certainly not authorised for us...(and yes, I know that consideration goes out of the window if the fit has definitely hit the san such as a fire and/or smoke.), Darwin is a way off and may have had weather issues....The Alice OTOH may have been the best fit given circumstances (which we won’t get from flight radar and/or the Twitter sphere).

0ttoL 18th Jan 2018 19:33

Just saw JT on Sunrise this morning.
Says it was probably "an engine stall"

<sigh>

Pearly White 18th Jan 2018 20:26


Originally Posted by 0ttoL (Post 10023973)
Just saw JT on Sunrise this morning.
Says it was probably "an engine stall"

<sigh>

Surprised he didn’t suggest they could have bump-started, given they had sufficient altitude then...

Pearly White 18th Jan 2018 20:30


Originally Posted by RAT 5 (Post 10023546)
Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.

Should be on all command courses. I found there was so little guidance of suitable PA's in NNC's. Given the young age of some who might have to make one..........some help to keep the situation calm 'back there' IMHO is most welcome.

I'm not familiar with this region, or the airports they chose, but, as a generalism, the closest suitable may not be the nearest; in that, by the time you've completed your analysis, executed a checklist or 2, decided where to go reference weather and facilities and LDA, dug out the charts, planned the descent & approach, briefed all who need to be, you might have used up more time than a normal 20-25 minute descent. I hear some people say that you should drop into the airfield nearest underneath you, but if you do and then spend 10 mins holding, to finish up, you could have gone further to a more familiar/convenient/suitable airport with a full defence in place: it might even be your departure airport.

Subsequently, on the TV chat show circuit, Captain Eric Moody said “I’d done some gliding in the Air Training Corps about thirty years ago, but this was the first serious gliding I have done since!”

Fris B. Fairing 18th Jan 2018 20:40


Originally Posted by Pearly White (Post 10024025)
Subsequently, on the TV chat show circuit, Captain Eric Moody said “I’d done some gliding in the Air Training Corps about thirty years ago, but this was the first serious gliding I have done since!”

Not to mention the badger reference.


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