JETGO Airlines to launch Brisbane-Karratha-Singapore services
 

"JETGO Australia will add Karratha and its first international city, Singapore to its network from mid-2018. The regional carrier, with its hub at Brisbane airport, operates scheduled and charter services primarily along Australia’s east coast. This will be the first time the airline will fly scheduled services to Western Australia."

Embraer E175 with 88 seats will be used for these new services

So Jetgo is upgauging to ERJ175s? Very interesting.

Someone in this company must have deep pockets. Unless they have some 'contract' to take people to and from Karratha to Singapore, this will be a flop.

Good Stuff...Go JETGO

And scheduled services with just one E Jet is brave. WHEN it breaks down, you're proper stuck.

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Here we go again!

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Here we go again with all the armchair-expert naysayers!

Jet NoGo?
 

The question is whether it will even get off the ground. Recent events don’t fill me with much confidence.

Jetgo cancels new route as only one passenger booked on first flight

Good onya JetGo, give it a try. If there isn't a demand, go somewhere else. Not the airline's fault, just not the demand at the time.

And of course the usual suspects are jumping up and putting sh1t on them, just for having a go. But hang on, didn't all you "experts" say they wouldn't make it through the first year? Not very good experts, are ya?

I understood Silkair were commencing an operation SIN-KTA in March next year.

With the number of daily SIA services on the SIN-BNE route using B777, A330 and A350 aircraft there would have to be zero demand for EJet travel on that route especially with a pit stop in KTA. There might be some demand for seats BNE-KTA but even in the boom days QF only operated one B737 return service a week. So as rep says in post #2 KTA-SIN has to be the basis of this new service but unless a fixed contract is involved most punters would probably travel KTA-PER-SIN.

If the flight to and from Singapore is reasonably priced then why would anyone pay the absolutely ludicrous cost of the flight to and from Perth? Don’t forget that in that part of the world, the catchment extends out for hundreds of kms. People out there will quite happily drive 4-500kms one way to get on a flight.

Could prove to be a winner. Good luck Jetgo.

Yep. I had friends that recently left town that would drive 500kms to LM for a flight to Perth as it was around $100pp cheaper each way. So for a $800 saving they would spend about $150 in fuel and 10hrs in the car.

I think a lot of eastern states people forget, or just don't realise how big and empty the NW is. And given a one way ticket to PH on average is $500, skipping the waster 6-7hrs flying south then back north is fairly appealing.

Silk Air fly Darwin - Singapore which might be a cheaper option.

SkyAirWorld....check
Strategic........check
JetGo....................?
Good luck.

To my knowledge the 190 wa the only ejet certified for etops, so would have to have a look at the routing to see if brisbane karratha can be done none edto.

I assume karratha to singapore should be ok..

There is truth in what you say but how is BNE-KTA-SIN going to be a reasonably priced flight? Base the single E170 and a crew in KTA perhaps and forget BNE? Additionally, every time that plane becomes unserviceable it is going to cost them a motza.

There is a lot of demand between the Pilbara and BNE. A lot of FIFOs are based in BNE. Jetgo is a point to point operation so I’m not even sure if they would sell BNE to SIN for these services.

I’m sure they’ve accounted for the costs associated with unserviceabilities and occasional drop ins to ASP for fuel.

The amount of FIFO workers that commute to Perth then to Asia is significant!

Remove the sector to Perth and I would see people jumping at it.

I'm totally sure they couldn't sell BNE- SIN as an RPT operation but if money can be made flying KTA to SIN you still gotta get the plane to KTA and while there may well be a lot of potential demand from BNE based FIFOs the fact is their employers fly most of them to the Pilbara via Perth. There is potential demand for lots of new regional air services in Oz but most of them don't stack up economically unless there are government or industry subsidies in the mix.

Yes my gut feel is that this has disaster written all over it. I think that Silkair opted out because it isn’t viable with a larger aircraft and look at all the connections they would have onto SQ. I imagine Jetgo won’t have much in the way of connections in Singapore. Councils stumping up a lot of generous incentives to get it off the ground no doubt but will be tough to make it work. As someone else mentioned QF only ran a weekly 738 and that was in the height of the boom.

Qantas actually did tuesday and wednesday direct Brisbane. Monday was Melbourne and thursday was Sydney direct.

Port Hedland still gets a Brisbane flight on tuesday from Qantas so there must be some demand.

Have you guys ever lived/worked in the pilbara? There’s a lot of contractors in the Newman/port headland and karratha area that would happily use a direct service.

Yes a lot of FIFO workers go via Perth because that’s what BHP and Rio do for their workers. Equally there are contractors that have free accommodation in the pilbara while they’re there, but have to sort out there own way home. There’s lots of them living in Asia.

The council's been throwing money around trying to get an international service for their over the top terminal they spent $30m on before pax numbers dropped by 50%. i believe the incentives also include covering the cost of the ground handling. So, fair to say the risk will be shared fairly evenly and won't be all on Jetgo. If they got a contract between KTA and BNE might help to cover the costs of running a half or 2/3 empty aeroplane up to SIN.

It's going to rely on locals to use it as I can't see many Singaporeans wanting to start their holiday in K-town:}

According to the Mayor they did a survey and hundreds of people want it. getting their bums on seats vs going via PER will be a different matter entirely.

Bump. Any progress?

I did hear that they are considering E190 rather than E175. Maybe ex VA?

Icarus, I think the E190 that's in Clark is headed to Jetgo. Makes sense to me, if you're going to have the expense of the E190, you may as well have the capacity and range of the E190.

VH-ZPH ex VA will be going to Jetgo

Well good news for them I guess. Local airframes available makes life easier. Does anyone know much about the owners?

YBBN to Karratha is not an ETOPS flight, nor is onwards to WSSS, with a track near WADD. In fact, they can go on more or less to the CAN/USA via UK, Iceland, Greenland etc without being ETOPS. ETOPS can be helpful though, but it is not necessary everywhere, and on occasions it is not even desirable.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YBBN-YPKA&DU=mi&E=60

Does this help?
Based on 60 minutes.

Add the 15 minute allowance for 75 mins and there appears to be a small area shown.

C'mon iccy you can do better than that. What about Isa and Longreach?

Yes, seems a bit odd.

There would be a number of FIFOs living in Bali, perhaps flying to and from there instead of Perth would be an option. Mining companies could offer 6/2 with a trip straight to WADD doing away with the need to overnight in Perth and buy a ticket on AirAsia.

What does that have to do with Brisbane - Karratha - Singapore?

Aren't there flights from Port Hedland to Bali now?

That it will launch will be a miracle. And that will only be because the City of Karratha (with the unfortunate acronym CoK) will be underwriting it. Be interesting to see who uses it.

How quickly we forget one's roots! :)

That's what the Transport Minister said...

I guess anyone in the Karratha catchment area who is sick of flying two hours down to Perth on an expensive domestic flight to then fly back past KTA to SE Asia. The other choice would be Darwin.

I think it may work. Silkair were scheduled to try it but pulled out. Probably too risky for them as they can deploy elsewhere on a sure thing.

But if the destination is Bali, the most popular destination in SE Asia, they're flying 2.5 hours past DPS to fly back.

That is a big call. I guess you meant "...in SE Asia for West Australians"?

Not much of a shock if people decide to fly two hours North to Thailand which is number five on the list but the second most popular in SE Asia.

https://auspost.com.au/travel-essent...ralians-travel

3401.0 - Overseas Arrivals and Departures, Australia, Dec 2016

where would the new e-jet be used when not flying BNE/SIN/BNE ? Maybe on BNE/ABX/BNE which seems to be one of Jetgo's best routes.