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cee cee 6th Jul 2018 13:56


Originally Posted by TWOTBAGS (Post 10173208)
An ASIC search has shown that neither Bredereck nor Mulder are/were/ever have been directors of the company, confirmed by the administrator.

Then perhaps you can explain why Jetgo's own news page says

JETGO Australia’s Managing Director Airlines Paul Bredereck advised “Despite an obvious small core demand for the jet service, unfortunately the traffic demand and high costs cannot support two carriers on this route, therefore JETGO has made the commercial decision to redeploy its aircraft onto other routes.”

Mr Bredereck's own LinkedIn profile says that he is the Managing Director Airline Operations of JETGO Australia from 2012 to 2018.
So did Mr Bredereck misrepresent himself to JetGo or to ASIC?


The administrator is required by law to make their opinion in the DOCA as to where the financial culpability lies, end of story. Its then up to ASIC to form a case that has enough evidence to warrant investigation int the accountability of the Sole Director.

The only people who could remotely qualify to pass knowledge of what happened in the jetgo offices in the past 12 months are those that were there in person on a day to day basis, which factually are few and far between.
The defintion of a managing director is someone who is responsible for the daily operations of a company, organization, or corporate division.

By what definition is Mr Bredereck not privy to the day-to-day operations of the company?


I am happy to retract/revise anything i've written here if its not true, .
I look forward to hearing your explaination.

Ned Stark 7th Jul 2018 01:11


Originally Posted by cee cee (Post 10190221)
Then perhaps you can explain why Jetgo's own news page says

JETGO Australia’s Managing Director Airlines Paul Bredereck advised “Despite an obvious small core demand for the jet service, unfortunately the traffic demand and high costs cannot support two carriers on this route, therefore JETGO has made the commercial decision to redeploy its aircraft onto other routes.”

Mr Bredereck's own LinkedIn profile says that he is the Managing Director Airline Operations of JETGO Australia from 2012 to 2018.
So did Mr Bredereck misrepresent himself to JetGo or to ASIC?



The defintion of a managing director is someone who is responsible for the daily operations of a company, organization, or corporate division.

By what definition is Mr Bredereck not privy to the day-to-day operations of the company?


I look forward to hearing your explaination.

hahahahahaha good luck.
These guys have, and are always quick on the shadow games and smoke and mirrors explanations. Always pretty quick to blame others for their shortcomings.

topend3 21st Jul 2018 02:01

Apparently the City of Karratha is owed $850,000. But they did numerous risk assessments of their viability apparently, according to the Mayor, which he needs to say given $850k of ratepayers money just went down the toilet.

dijical 21st Jul 2018 14:39

FlyCorporate submits a tender to service Wollongong
 
It looks like Fly Corporate are going to step into the hole left by JETGO in Wollongong, having already done so in Dubbo.
How many SAABs have these guys got? I'd have thought they'd be starting to get stretched given the fairly rapid growth in their network.

Wollongong, Australia, seeks JetGo replacement

Going Nowhere 21st Jul 2018 21:41

They have a handful of Metros that could probably be subbed in on some of their other flights.

onehitwonder 24th Jul 2018 22:53

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...rbour-council/

red_dirt 25th Jul 2018 01:44

Poor Stratus 😂😂

onehitwonder 25th Jul 2018 03:40

Stratus - According to his Facebook it’s a technical point on the rejection and they’re now starting an airline...

what aircraft?
what crew?

i guess the negotiations / partnering with other operators fell through and the broker has seen a market to good to knock back...🤨

come on if Corporate couldn’t do it; you surely can’t😂

hiwaytohell 26th Jul 2018 04:05

SAAB, Metro, Jetstream would be second segment limited out of Albion Park on all runways except 08 and that would be payload limited due length. Maybe you could get away with it on charter but not RPT!

onehitwonder 26th Jul 2018 09:27

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...feb757c440.png
Stratus - already has aircraft and crew and obviously an RPT licence to be selling seats. Casa must have changed within the past 18 months issuing aoc’s 🤔🤔

Daddy Fantastic 24th Dec 2018 09:52

Jetgo advertising for pilots again...WTF!!

sharv999 26th Dec 2018 09:35

This would be the same JETGO whose Brisbane-Wollongong-Essendon RTP service went belly-up earlier this year?

Daddy Fantastic 26th Dec 2018 15:26

Apparently so.

Bort Simpson 27th Dec 2018 00:47

Who's behind this latest version?
There are still ASIC moves going on and it'd be interesting if some of the same defunct string pullers are trying to lose more peoples money for them again.
...not to mention the safety questions still outstanding. :(

chimbu warrior 27th Dec 2018 03:26

Interestingly the AOC still appears to be current on the CASA website.

Horatio Leafblower 27th Dec 2018 09:17

Chimbu
There are a ton of defunct companies in that listing. As usual, CASA with infinite resources unable to deliver the performance it demands of industry.

onehitwonder 27th Feb 2019 02:02

https://compassjet.com/fleet/

Seem's quite a few ex Jetgo employees......

Icarus2001 27th Feb 2019 02:15

Any charges to be laid?

Power 27th Feb 2019 03:17

VIP CRJ 200...lol

4 Holer 27th Feb 2019 03:41

Have another crack at it......Thats the American way same reason there is only one flag on the moon. BUT watch your backs for the Aussies, they only knife from behind.

zanthrus 27th Feb 2019 08:30

Six US flags on the moon. Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17.

zanthrus 27th Feb 2019 08:33

I am wondering why they named this new venture after two previous failed airlines? Foretelling the future of yet another pyramid scheme?

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 27th Feb 2019 08:39


you'll find there's a Chinese flag on the moon too these days.
I'm sorry. I must have missed that memo. When did the Chinese put men on the moon?

TBM-Legend 27th Feb 2019 09:31


I am wondering why they named this new venture after two previous failed airlines? Foretelling the future of yet another pyramid scheme?
Try Googling these guys and looking for the CRJ's. Anyway PB heard at Avalon today extolling his plan for some ERJ135/140's for another go!!!!

Icarus2001 27th Feb 2019 09:56

When will charges be laid for insolvent trading? The government agencies are so weak.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 28th Feb 2019 00:53

When you took the conversation literally, rather than figuratively.

(PS there's 5 countries flags on the moon)

Icarus2001 28th Feb 2019 01:33

Perhaps the "management" of Jetgo could be placed there as well?

sumtingwong 28th Feb 2019 05:18

:D You’re an ideas man Icarus.

4 Holer 28th Feb 2019 15:00

Ladies, The only people to walk on the moon and plant a flag is good old USA over 40 years ago the same dudes that built the airplane and B707/B747....... Even Branson built his space craft rockets here in Mojave on an FAA "Experimental operating certificate" crashed one killed a guy and kept going.Try that with the Idiots at CASA.

I hear the Australian Space agency is still doing an SMS risk analysis (after 40 years) about going to the moon but there seems to be systemic risk in the matrix of something going wrong. This is why Australia will always be a backwater getting nothing done except back stabbing and more and more rules and restrictions. You don't have Chuck and Larry who will jump in any airplane or rocket and have a go, your too busy wringing your hands "what if ".
Have another go JetGo and another one after that with different equipment its how you become great.................. But Watch your back down under.

Mach E Avelli 28th Feb 2019 23:40

I must be thick, but I fail to see how a thread can drift from a discussion about a defunct airline and its inept management to men on the moon.
Unless the analogy is that Jetgo Mark 2 has about the same chances as Somalia putting a woman on the moon.

Defenestrator 1st Mar 2019 22:23


Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli (Post 10403445)
I must be thick, but I fail to see how a thread can drift from a discussion about a defunct airline and its inept management to men on the moon.
Unless the analogy is that Jetgo Mark 2 has about the same chances as Somalia putting a woman on the moon.

If I had to choose I’d throw a few dollars on Somalia’s space program. There’s a chance, although slim, that someone might have a modicum of integrity/intellect on that project.

rammel 2nd Mar 2019 11:32

I have no idea what PB is planning, but Jetgo's AOC expires on the 31/05/2019 and there are still four Jetgo aircraft on the Australian register.

TBM-Legend 2nd Mar 2019 11:46

The AOC can't be sold. One must buy the company any liabilities to obtain the AOC..

Icarus2001 2nd Mar 2019 11:59

That would be upwards of $35 million for the AOC then. What a deal.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 3rd Mar 2019 03:17

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come on, Traffic - are you seriously suggesting that we're supposed to figuratively interpret what people mean instead of what they actually write
No, not we, just you. Everyone else got the inference I reckon.

In any case, your mentioning of there being 5 flags on the moon actually supports my initial comment
I wouldn't have mentioned the flags at all. I only did to correct your statement. If you are going to tell someone to "pull their jingoistic head out of their arse", at least get your facts straight.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 5th Mar 2019 11:07

I'm pretty happy with my position in the discussion.

Icarus2001 4th May 2020 06:44

So with VA in administration, whatever happened after the administrators finished with this mob?

Paragraph377 4th May 2020 06:50


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 10771878)
So with VA in administration, whatever happened after the administrators finished with this mob?

Paul still lurks around the pages off PPrune and he now offers his services as a ‘senior business adviser’. HTF that works is anyone’s guess. Perhaps he advises people on how to be unsuccessful in business? Maybe he will pop up with Teejay and start yet another airline!

Office Update 7th May 2020 01:12

JetGo EMB145 was taxying at Cairns a few minutes ago.
So someone is interested .... or maybe just preventative maintenance.


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