QF Recruiting FOs Hawaii
 

Seen a post on linkedin from a QF recruiter about a recruitment drive taking place in Honolulu for DHC-8 rated first officers. Interesting, considering many local GAs queuing up for these spots? Albeit even footing the type-rating bill themselves if needed. Why Hawaii? #perplexed

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update...94678151188480

A Hawaii Dash operator went under a few weeks ago. QF seem to think that these guys didnt get picked up by another regional the next day.

I doubt they get anybody.

Island Air just kicked the bucket. At one time, they flew the DHC-8:

What?s Next For Interisland Air Service In Hawaii?

Maybe they're trolling for Island Air refugees with DHC-8 experience ? Would this involve the 457 (?) visa to work in Australia ?

Straight to Skywest on a Jet, command 6-12 months. Unless they've got a family connection to Aus, Qlink have got Buckley's of getting anyone to come across

Yes, but the entertainment value is priceless. :D Interesting times.

Sounds like a pre Christmas junket trip?
A chance for HR to unwind and catch some rays.

FlyBoy seems to have hit it on the head... Didn't realise the useless mainline bird was also doing link recruitment!

^^^^This!

HR team has to justify a Hawaii vacation somehow.

From the linkedin ad....
Time to command?????.
Perhaps the HR chic could face the mainline pilot group and deliver that one.

I don't understand how this can happen though?



"This occupation is currently NOT on the Medium and Long term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL) or the Short-term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL), so it is not possible to apply for an Australian visa under the General Skilled Migration (GSM) Program."


Can someone explain what I am missing here?

I was thinking the same?
I remember last year they were targeting Canada, offering to pay relocation costs etc...treating them much better than our own citizens.

I'm still working on my CPL and requirements, but if I was CPL applying to Qantaslink and just being put on hold or not getting any response, which I have seen a lot of people post on here about, I'd be bloody fuming!

I suspect they will claim there are no Australian applicants who are endorsed, current and meet type hour requirements, QED, there are no suitable local candidates.

Welcome to commercial aviation in Australia. You'll need to have the hide of a rhinoceroses and the patience of a Zen master just to survive this business without going insane. Consider this your first real world aviation business lesson, there will be plenty more coming along before the end of your career...

Is it for Jetstar regional in NZ?

I hear there are a few Dash 8 pilots in POM looking for better career options, some don’t even need 457 visas!

Negative, her ad talks about discussing relocation to Aus with potentials, so definitely Aus.

Same boat mate. Makes me pretty angry, to be honest.

And Qantas call themselves our National career?

Why can’t they employ the young Australian pilots ahead of expats?

This country is seriously messed up!!!

A flag carrier of convenience, lots of foreign nominee companies actually own Qantas..

They will happily employ Australian pilots provided they are cheaper. Lower labour unit cost is a very deep seated obsession.

It’s really disgraceful the way these visa’s have been abused. It was happening in ATC till the CEO was forced to concede that if there was no ATC shortage then it shouldn’t be on the list. Instead of investing in our kids and their future they just brought in ATC’s from overseas, while at the same time downsizing the training departments.
I was once a CPL and I can tell you I would be mad as hell if I was still trying to make a career as an airline pilot. How the government can buy this is beyond me!
If this was the case then all our pilots would have to come from overseas because without companies investing in training then there will be no Aussies suitable

Contact your local members and make as much noise as you can, tell them Qantas would have very few Aussie pilots if they had to turn up to the interview already qualified on their aircraft. Don’t let it just happen, it’s for your future and your kids future!

Can confirm.

A colleague of mine who is Facebook friends with a young lass in that part of the world has put it out there that she has been given an interview and is asking all sorts of questions on what to expect?

From what I can gather she started flying training in 2015, has just over 1000 hours total including some multi crew turboprop experience, has never been to Australia but is keen to broaden her horizons.

If anyone has any tips or tricks it would be much appreciated :ok:

She’s female and presumably has a pulse. She’s as good as in.

It will definently be hard for Aussies to compete if yanks are given any opportunity.
Their aviation careers are much different to that of a typical Australian. There’s no getting a thousand hours in a single, then 500 in a baron, then 500 in a 404.
Most I know are in a multi crew turbo prop well below 1000 hours and that’s their second sometimes third job. So what we may see is 1000 hour pilots with 200 hours rhs time getting the jobs.

Would qlink be doing this because training capacity is full is they can’t put people through type ratings?

There’s plenty of guys i’ve Spoken to in the last few months who have been on hold for over a year who have said “you know what, forget it”,
Which is sad, as I seen what they had to go through just to get an interview.

It is actively supported by governments of all persuasions.
It helps keep the serfs from ever having bargaining power and I would strongly suggest if that you could change anything by voting they would ban that as well..

So QF wait for an airline to go tits up and then goes in to scoop up the desperate and recently unemployed? Fvcking ambulace chasers!!

No doubt the deal is pretty crappy too.

And at the Aus roadshows they’re asking why people aren’t applying or staying!!! Ha

If any yanks come over, it would simply be to get 12 months experience so they can be on a jet back home.

Forgive my (significant) ignorance, but don’t you guys at the big Q have some sort of union to deal with this sort of behaviour by your company?

1987,

That's a big "If" since it's hard to imagine many Americans would take the offer. Hard to tell, I suppose, until the dust settles.

Those Island Air pilots can be on a regional jet right now in the US. They'll likely have to work someplace other than Hawaii but going to Australia doesn't seem like a practical long term career move for them.

I guess we'll see...

Desperation is a funny thing.

YYeee Haaa get some horse riding cowboys from Maui down under to shake up the girls with a bit of stick and rudder flying.... Nice.

Qantas 'management' is not a rational beast. It's led by an egotist who has likely had a crummy school life and is now taking his petty grudges out on any group he dislikes. He does like HR (possibly the only group he does like) which in QF performs the same role the Gestapo performed for the Nazi's. He has surrounded himself with a coterie of yes men, is a one trick pony (cost cutting), an inept manager, out of his depth and out to extract as much cash for himself as he possibly can. Nor does he 'care' about the airline.

To understand QF, you have to accept that is the beast you are dealing with. The last time the unions tried to get some progress (basically trying to protect the airline from it's management) the airline was shut down by the lunatic at a cost north of half a billion dollars. That's a very expensive way to stop militant pilots wearing red ties.

Qantas is an extremely dangerous adversary which completely owns the media and most politicians. I suggested a course of action to the union when the airline was shut down, but was told it would not be palatable for most members. Although I do think it would have solved the problem in a few days, you have to appreciate what one is prepared to do, others would not.

Hope that explains the insanity to those less familiar with Kim Jong Al.

Any of those displaced island air pilots with 1000 hours part 121 time (RPT airline ops) can literally walk into one of the many regionals recruiting in the USA and become street captains on a jet, with a large signing bonus due to their previous airline experience.
QF HR are laughable.

What Power said!!! The deal is to base any hapless ex Island Air crew in Cairns as HR feel that the climate of Cairns and the "lower" cost of living will be just too good to resist. I am not joking. The visa that they plan on applying for will exclude Capital city centres ( no YBBN,YSSY,YMML ). You folk on the hold file ought be outraged.:mad:

You don't even need that to get a jet job in the US right now. Many from GA are jumping straight in to the RHS of a CRJ or Ejet as soon as they have the mins for an FAA ATP at 1500 hours. Why would the furloughed Island Airways drivers want to go to Aus to fly turbo-props when they can easily get a jet job and stay home. Furthermore, they won't have to deal with CASA for the license conversion.

I was one of the many who waited on the dreaded hold file, then I finally grew wise and looked abroad. The FAA are really easy to deal with, the training is comprehensive and streamlined. The equipment is recent/new and the flying over in the USA is second to none, compared to what I was used to in Aus. I received an email from Qlink recently asking to update my details, however I'm glad I made the switch and replied that I had withdrawn my applications last year, and I have no intention of returning anytime soon. There are now over 50 Aussies working for the Airline I'm with.

A very powerful recommendation.

They rely on unlimited supply, but globalisation, at least for pilots works both ways...

And have an automatic flow to mainline AA if they choose one of their wholly owned regionals, which is a great backup if they don’t get hired off the street before their flow number comes up.

DEC’s
 

What makes everyone think that they are there looking for FO’s...?

I think the title on this thread may need to include the words, ‘Captains’ and ‘Qlink’

Now that’ll be a way to make those who plan to stay at Qlink to start looking around at other options. And there are many of them out there in this current market!

whilst I agree with the sentiments displayed here, I also find it funny that there is a concurrent thread discussing going to the USA on an E3 visa to fly.

Direct Entry line Captains can only be employed once there are no FO’s left who meet the minimum requirements to upgrade. They haven’t reached that point yet.

If/when DEC are employed, they go to the bottom of the list like everyone else and once the FO’s above them meet the requirements, they can bid for command.