The two issues are completely different IMO. The US regionals are employing Australians on the E3 visa because they have insufficient pilots who meet the FAA minimums to fly for a part 121operation. Qlink on the other hand have a steady supply of pilots who meet their minimum requirements, but are being bypassed for foreign pilots assumingly to save time, money and resources on training locals.

Hystonfysh and going nowhere
 

I know everyone ( other than management) would like to think what you are saying is correct...but read the EBA and company manuals.

DEC’s aren’t restricted.

The post on linkedin has been deleted. Possibly copped a bit of flak?

Maybe.
Could have just taken it down as it’s now been and gone?

Chatter from the folks on the other side of the table.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/o...hawaii-15.html

Good to see they haven’t been lead down the garden path....

If qlink are so desperate for pilots, why are people still being deferred after being unsuccessful with jetstar/qf mainline?
Mainline has been extremely competitive over the last 12 months, many good pilots have attended assesment days and not quite made the mark....and then get told they also can’t apply qlink (back up plan) for a whole year? Why not 3-6 months? I understand Rex are letting applicants resit testing.

Their systems are not equipped to either identify declining supply nor understand its source.

Difficult as it is, eventually the system will recognise a changed paradigm, but when their model has operated on unlimited supply for decades and acceptance that this no longer true will take time.

It’s amazing what 12 months can do.
Last year when qlink opened recruiting it seemed like every GA I bumped into had an application in....one year later and they have to run road shows to spark interest. HR have done a fine job of pushing pilots away.

It seems they are desperately short of captains, so why create plans to hire 200 hour pilots that will be fo’s until the 2020’s?

Ah...to replace the current FO’s who will be moving up to Captain! They are desperately short .. apparently!:ok:

You've seen the orange skinned, yellow haired bloke that's in charge? He's making many relocate

HAHA. Indeed.

For those who are in Australia I wouldn't stress too much about QFLink getting too many pilots from overseas. These are the retirements from the big 4 and FedEx over the next 5 years.

Delta
2018-415
2019-513
2020-602
2021-789
2022-851

United
2018- 373
2019- 403
2020- 406
2021- 491
2022- 463

FedEx
2018: 177
2019: 144
2020: 178
2021: 206
2022: 211

American Airlines
2018 261
2019 375
2020 499
2021 572
2022 641

Southwest

2018- 110
2019- 135
2020- 164
2021- 206
2022- 195

Given the flow on from all of these retirements do you reckon a Dash 8 F/O (or similar low time pilot) in the US even needs to come to Australia? So a handful (or even less) from Hawaii isn't going to even dent the demand that Aussie regionals and majors have for pilots over the next few years. Quite the opposite given the numbers from above. Aussie pilots can expect to be offered gigs in the US and if they get desperate, they'll start offering $$$ as well.

Keg,

As you know, it's going to be just as "sporty" up here from 2023 thru 2028...if not more so.

I almost feel guilty about how much I'm enjoying this. :E

As a German friend once explained to me, the untranslatable schadenfreude is "like watching a brand new Mercedes have a head-on collision with a brand new BMW".

......... ;):D

Airline management has been asleep at the wheel and it's now catching up with them. All the airlines (and ALPA/APA/IBT, etc) now facing huge retirements have known from the moment a pilot was hired when he'd retire; they took no steps to head it off (increasing the age to 65 is irrelevant as 67 would be). The brewing storm was a known phenomenon.

They'll find a way to fill the seats but watching them squirm and scramble is entertaining.

At the end of the day Airlines are going to have to provide either
A) A lifestyle allowing adequate rest and family time combined with a respectful company culture and adequate salary, or,
B) Massive salaries.
Keep in mind though that the impending shortage is of experience, not newly minted licences. Airlines can buy/provide licences, they will have to scrap over experience.

Indeed, Willie Walsh articulated this nuance precisely not long ago: No shortage of pilots in airline industry, IAG boss Willie Walsh says

He also had something of interest for Rated De:

Maybe this outfit picked up a few Island Air refugees ?:

Empire Airlines :: Ohana

Yeah, that is kind of surreal.

Not sure I'm following your logic. How would hiring foreign pilots save time and money? At least in the US, a new hire pilot, whether he barely meets the minimum requirements, or is very experienced in the aircraft still must go through the identical training at a Part 121 Airline. Does an airline in Oz get to say, "Well you're already flown the Dash 8, we will just give you an abbreviated training program and put you right into the airplane?"