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TBM-Legend 20th Nov 2017 05:52

Don't like the company, then POQ to another...

Fris B. Fairing 20th Nov 2017 06:03


Originally Posted by captwawa (Post 9962859)
Game changer

and apparently also a logo changer. Every time there is a game changer you also have to change your logo - apparently.

The Green Goblin 20th Nov 2017 07:40

Where’s the ‘like’ button captain dart?

C441 20th Nov 2017 09:03


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 9962871)
Don't like the company, then POQ to another...

Don't confuse a frustration with the way the company has been run with a dislike of the company itself.

Many of us are incredibly loyal to the company; less so to the management and their practices….

Ken Borough 20th Nov 2017 10:16


Many of us are incredibly loyal to the company
Couldn't be truer words. The loyalty of staff to the Company and to each other in getting the job done has to be seen and experienced. It is phenomenal. Management and its decisions may not be liked but that doesn't affect loyalty to the Company. Most of us are very proud to have worked for Qantas!

blow.n.gasket 20th Nov 2017 14:50

As a mate keeps saying :
Qantas succeeds despite management , not necessarily because of management !

Easie 20th Nov 2017 19:57


You guys really need your head read.

The airline is making squillions. It’s hiring a shed load of new pilots. Creating good upwards movement. It’s trying new routes and buying new metal.

All in all, it’s a good time to be a qantas pilot, or any Australian pilot for that matter. If you’re on the outside looking in and on the bottom of another list, it’d be silly not to have a crack.

Joyce may be a lot of things, but I now believe he was the right man for the job.

It’s a good time to be in the group.
Thought you had it together Gobbie. Disappointed to see you sell out like this.

The Qantas CEO could have been deaf, blind and mute and achieved what Joyce has achieved.

All he's doing now is playing catch up for the mistakes that the board he led made years ago.

But I will hand it to the marketing team for fitting all that propaganda into such a neat little pill for the masses to swallow.

Easy enough to touch even the most vocal internet lords.

What a sad time for Australian aviation to see such simple accomplishments worshiped like this.

One 787....... A TV show...... Jesus......

LongLats 20th Nov 2017 20:08


Easie:But I will hand it to the marketing team for fitting all that propaganda into such a neat little pill for the masses to swallow.

Easy enough to touch even the most vocal internet lords.

What a sad time for Australian aviation to see such simple accomplishments worshiped like this.
Spot on mate.


Green Goblin: It’s a good time to be in the group.
Spoken like somebody in the group :rolleyes:

The Qantas indoctrination is real.

Dora-9 20th Nov 2017 21:34


The Qantas indoctrination is real.
As I said in post #7, they believe their own BS....

Keg 20th Nov 2017 21:56

That's irrelevant. What's important is the travelling public believe their BS and you have to admit they're doing a bloody good job. Multiple relatives of mine are convinced that Joyce et al managed to get rid of all the 'old, outdated work practises by the engineers, baggage hand,ears and pilots' and that he's turned the company around brilliantly.

That many of us know the reality is irrelevant to the narrative at play in terms of shaping the public's (and market's) mind set.

B772 24th Nov 2017 21:58

I was surprised I did not see John Travolta involved with the B787 acceptance !

criticalmass 26th Nov 2017 06:12

I've had it sitting on the hard-drive of my video recorder for a while now and finally got around to watching it a few days ago.

The editor did a good job of keeping the aircraft out of most of it, so all the flight attendants, trainee pilots (why - they haven't flown it and they weren't part of the delivery crew) and the acceptance crew etc could be the stars, with the obligatory appearances by Alan Joyce.

Boeing, and the 787, did make a few appearances, but by the time I had finished I decided it didn't show a single "secret" about the 787 and it was not worth investing in the $1 or so to edit out the ads, "top-and-tail" it and burn it to a DVD-R disk. I erased it.

I'd rate it a passable Qantas PR video, but unless you are interested in how many problems there were with the premium economy seats, or how the galleys looked before they were installed or how important it is to choose the right toilets and how many people are required to make that momentous decision, it's a fizzer. Not quite a waste of sync-pulses, but close to it.

Jetsbest 26th Nov 2017 06:23

Did anyone else notice Mr Paul "Howes-Wirth" in the Business class cabin?

I can't imagine why a KPMG consultant would be part of such s prestigious event..... oh... wait.😏😉

Kiwiconehead 26th Nov 2017 08:51


Originally Posted by criticalmass (Post 9969283)
I've had it sitting on the hard-drive of my video recorder for a while now and finally got around to watching it a few days ago.

I flicked it on today and hit delete about a minute into the pilot crapping on with his wife.

Rated De 28th Nov 2017 23:32

Qantas economy class seat comes with a footrest - Business Insider

As emailed to me: Benjamin Zhang insightful Journalist that he is, takes a reader on a voyage of discovery!


I had the chance to briefly experience the seat in October on a flight from Seattle, Washington to Honolulu, Hawaii. And I can confirm that the foot net along with supple seat padding and a generous degree of recline makes it more than pleasant enough for a 17-hour journey.

Last time I checked the great circle distance implies a flight time of circa 6 hours. Should not really be in business insider, perhaps in the advertising section..

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 29th Nov 2017 00:24

Yea, how long is "briefly"? Bet he wasn't back there too long. Long enough though, to discover that economy class has changed "forever", with the addition of the "gamechanger" (must have been a condition of carriage to work that into your copy somehow) foot net. Imagine being able to "proper" (sic) up your feet? Provided of course you are not using it to store some of your belongings like the images seem to show.

Stationair8 30th Nov 2017 09:42

Fully invested!

Atlas Shrugged 4th Dec 2017 01:15

I still don't like the hats....

-JLS- 4th Dec 2017 12:29

Is Alan going to take EK to task over their use of the term 'game changer' in their adverts with Jeremy Clarkson spruiking their new first class seat?

OnceBitten 5th Dec 2017 03:11


Is Alan going to take EK to task over their use of the term 'game changer' in their adverts with Jeremy Clarkson spruiking their new first class seat?
I don't know about taking them to task but you sure get the feeling Ek are taking the mickey out of the "Game Changer" with that ad.

Whats the saying?? With friends like that.................... :rolleyes:


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