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MelbourneFlyer 20th Sep 2017 07:44

QF B789 delivery flight details
 
AusBT has shared details of the QF B789 delivery flight, which the website has been invited on (lucky sods, what a great trip that would be!).

Flight number is QF7879, arrives SYD at 7am on Fri Oct20 after a stopover at HNL the day before.

Full details at https://www.ausbt.com.au/community/v...elivery-flight

Capn Bloggs 20th Sep 2017 10:56

Arr, the old overnight-stop-on-the-ferry trick! :=:D

Callsign's a bit tacky too, what about the standard QF6001?

Ken Borough 20th Sep 2017 11:58

An obvious question: why isn't the aeroplane being flown non-stop Seattle-Sydney?

MelbourneFlyer 20th Sep 2017 12:13

According to AusBT comment on the thread, the HNL stopover is mainly about timing for media and maximising publicity by arriving into SYD at 7am for morning TV shows.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 20th Sep 2017 12:42

Wonder if it will be mentioned that other trailblazing airline powerhouses such as Azerbaijan Airlines and Uzbekistan Airways have had them for a while.

ruprecht 20th Sep 2017 13:00


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 9897973)
Wonder if it will be mentioned that other trailblazing airline powerhouses such as Azerbaijan Airlines and Uzbekistan Airways have had them for a while.

It's a GAME CHANGER!

:rolleyes:

Ken Borough 20th Sep 2017 13:17


According to AusBT comment on the thread, the HNL stopover is mainly about timing for media and maximising publicity by arriving into SYD at 7am for morning TV shows.
They could still arrive at 7am with a non-stop flight from Seattle. Apart from that, what good will morning TV coverage give as from what I glean, those who watch morning TV would be Jetstar or Virgin customers - the Bogans of the world.

VHFRT 20th Sep 2017 16:34


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 9897973)
Wonder if it will be mentioned that other trailblazing airline powerhouses such as Azerbaijan Airlines and Uzbekistan Airways have had them for a while.

Well seriously... they're in Eurovision for a reason. Not like we'll ever reach that lev... actually disregard

CSTGuy 20th Sep 2017 17:18

Of course the mandatory female pilots will be front and center for the media show. "Diversity" is the new black.

rowdy trousers 20th Sep 2017 20:47

When Ethiopean Airlines celebrated the arrival of their "Game Changer", it was crewed by two white, middle aged, male, hetro sexual Christians - now that's just wrong.

Rodney Rotorslap 20th Sep 2017 22:27

Will it have "YES" painted all over it?

Capt Fathom 20th Sep 2017 22:51

Arriving in Sydney at 7am would mean departing Seattle around 10pm?
Maybe Boeing staff don’t like working after 5pm. :}

ANCDU 20th Sep 2017 23:46

I wonder if it will park next to a Jetstar 788! Somehow I think not. On a serious note even though the publicity makes me want to vomit, it's a very positive event for all the long suffering Qantas crew. Enjoy!

RodH 17th Oct 2017 20:24

What nonsense
 
What's with all this ridiculous hype about an aircraft type that years old arriving in Sydney. The only thing different than many other B787's is the white rat on the tail.
No big deal but plenty of bovine excreta about it.
Much ado about nothing!!!!:yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk:

sunnySA 17th Oct 2017 21:45


Much ado about nothing
Perhaps. One again there will be extensive delays across the network to accommodate a "Sydney Scenic".

rjtjrt 17th Oct 2017 22:01


Originally Posted by RodH (Post 9928260)
What's with all this ridiculous hype about an aircraft type that years old arriving in Sydney. The only thing different than many other B787's is the white rat on the tail.
No big deal but plenty of bovine excreta about it.
Much ado about nothing!!!!:yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk:

This much hoopla about the 787 (hundreds in service with major airlines around the world) just draws attention to what a small minded, inward looking airline QANTAS has become under current leadership.

34R 17th Oct 2017 22:47

Who cares if other carriers have been flying them for years?

Notwithstanding the first bunch that went to the cheap seats, it's a new toy for QF and good luck to them.

SandyPalms 17th Oct 2017 22:59

Rubbish. It's all publicity, and Qantas is getting heaps and heaps of it.

maggot 17th Oct 2017 23:37


Originally Posted by SandyPalms (Post 9928375)
Rubbish. It's all publicity, and Qantas is getting heaps and heaps of it.

Yeah free publicity

You expect them to shrug that off? People drumming up new services for em; they'd be hung if they didn't

Get over it folks

Goat Whisperer 18th Oct 2017 03:01

In fairness, Virgin wheeled Branson out for a new paintjob on a second hand A330 and no-one criticised VA for self promotion.

rjtjrt 18th Oct 2017 03:23


Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer (Post 9928469)
In fairness, Virgin wheeled Branson out for a new paintjob on a second hand A330 and no-one criticised VA for self promotion.

Yes, fair point.

maggot 18th Oct 2017 04:14


Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer (Post 9928469)
In fairness, Virgin wheeled Branson out for a new paintjob on a second hand A330 and no-one criticised VA for self promotion.

Yeah well he is the master of the self promo! :)

ImageGear 18th Oct 2017 04:26


Arr, the old overnight-stop-on-the-ferry trick!
This bird is not built for comfort, take a thick cushion for the derriere, and walk around a bit else you become a DVT statistic. :eek:

I have flown transatlantic once but now refuse to fly the plastic wonderjet. One stop across the Pacific is beyond my comprehension.

Imagegear

CurtainTwitcher 21st Oct 2017 01:57


Riding the first Qantas Dreamliner: Seattle, Honolulu and finally Sydney
Oct 20 2017 at 3:13 PM Updated Oct 20 2017 at 4:34 PM

by Joe Aston
We bend in over Elliott Bay at dusk and I'm mesmerised. The radiant, withdrawing daylight bounces from the glass pillars of downtown Seattle, guarded aloofly by the Space Needle.

The day has improved considerably. I woke at the Chateau Marmont just before noon, shivering uncontrollably, psychically insolvent, like I'd been to a house party at Whitney Houston's. But after two pints of Corona at LAX, and a couple of Gordon's and Seagram's courtesy of Alaska Airlines, The Fear receded as inexorably as the sun in the Pacific Northwest.

Seattle is a town I've always wanted to visit. How remarkable that a greater metropolitan area less populous than Melbourne's is home to a dozen of America's biggest companies: Amazon, Microsoft, Starbucks, Costco, Nordstrom, T-Mobile, Expedia; and, of course – in spirit – Boeing, whose Everett assembly factory is the largest building (by volume) in the world. And I'm here to see it.

I transfer immediately to an underground cider bar, where I find Alan Joyce, Neil Perry and Paul Howes locked in a brutal shuffleboard contest, encircled by an exhaustive (and riotous) complement of Australian journalists. We proceed to rack up a bar tab roughly equivalent in value to Alan's entire FY17 bonus. Pre-capital gains tax.

When the alarm sounds the next morning, I have barely slept. Staring at the ceiling just before dawn, it is barely any consolation that I am literally sleepless in Seattle.

But the tour bus waits for no straggler, so I coerce my cadaverous self onto it.

The problem with a "press trip", or junket, is that my life already is one; one where I can eat when I'm hungry, sleep when I'm tired and, preferably, talk to no one. I've all but forgotten how to follow a regimented intinerary. First class problems. But this one was worth the discipline: to perambulate around cavernous Everett, all 13.3 million cubic metres of it, positively geeking out.

We trek around 777 airframes being put together for Qatar and Emirates, and Dreamliners for Singapore's Scoot, Taiwan's EVA, Aeromèxico and Ethiopian. At the African carrier's fuselage I turn to Sunrise's Michael Pell. "Cardinal, what would their premium cabin be like? "Would business passengers have to sit on the floor?"

The Cardinal deadpans. "We should send you to Addis Ababa for saying that."

I can appreciate how cynics (Lord knows I am one) think the hype around Qantas' 787-9s is overblown. Geoff Dixon first ordered them in 2005 and funnily enough I worked at Qantas when it (first) either cancelled or deferred all 65 of its slots in 2009. The aircraft has now been in commercial service for three years with launch customer Air New Zealand, and 19 other airlines have them. But see nobody else is using it to fly between Australia and Europe non-stop, nobody has configured them so elegantly, and for a nation of road warriors, these jets will vastly improve the ultra-long-haul travel experience.

On board, the atmosphere is dramatic. The entire forward cabin changes into Martin Grant's limited edition pyjamas (including Martin Grant), and cocktails giving off a not inconsiderable pungency of tequila are drained with alacrity. I boast to anyone who'll listen that I'm the David Boon of delivery flights. The Human Ponytail breaks out the Tolpuddle chardonnay. I ask Iva Davies from Icehouse to play some Chisel, but am rebuffed. Paul and I familiarise ourselves with the inter-seat messaging function, as does Pell. "Michael, it is illegal to use our communications systems for Tinder purposes," Alan warns the Cardinal. As we whirr ghost-like down the tarmac at Everett, I can't take it any more. "This is awesome!" I cry, a spontaneous applause breaking out up and down the twin aisles.

When we arrive in Honolulu, I am tired and emotional. At the bottom of the stairs, we are each adorned with floral leis while a local troupe play their ukuleles. They could be the band from There's Something About Mary. The wind howls. The bus crawls its way into a 1970s dystopia. If it weren't for the Ferragamo and Harry Winston boutiques, we could be on Manus Island.

At our resort, I find a Mai Tai bar and commence drinking them while a bar-back stands near me cutting pineapples, and bad island guitar tunes descend from the PA. Just picture that George Clooney movie, The Descendants.

https://i.imgur.com/Fz6qIdA.jpg
Riding the first Qantas Dreamliner: Seattle, Honolulu and finally Sydney | afr.com

parabellum 21st Oct 2017 03:16

I could have more easily understood all the raz ma taz if QANTAS had finally bought the B777 ;)

ACMS 21st Oct 2017 03:51

Yawn..........

Good on em though, finally a new modern Jet for Skippy to play with.

Enjoy

Biggles_in_Oz 21st Oct 2017 06:53

According to SeatGuru, the seats in Y class will be an immense 0.2 inches wider with a whopping 2 more inches of legroom, as compared to the 787-8 of J*.

(In the picture from that nauseating puff-piece, who is the guy with the white hair walking down the front stairs ?)

Jeps 21st Oct 2017 07:20


(In the picture from that nauseating puff-piece, who is the guy with the white hair walking down the front stairs ?)
Just the pre-eminent Aviation journalist in all of the cosmos.

rjtjrt 21st Oct 2017 07:37

Good to see journalistic independence and integrity can't be bought.

SRFred 21st Oct 2017 08:51


Originally Posted by Biggles_in_Oz (Post 9931836)
(In the picture from that nauseating puff-piece, who is the guy with the white hair walking down the front stairs ?)


I thought it was Rolf Harris! :(

Capt Fathom 21st Oct 2017 09:45

Looks like a joyous time was had by all.

Rated De 21st Oct 2017 09:57

With a LN 615 it means that there are 614 already flying.

The decision to send the allotment of the 788 to JQ deprived QF of a product asymmetry (on the routes previously known as 'cityflyer') that despite his many flaws, Dixon recognised; VAH could never match it.

Instead Mr Clifford the industrial dinosaur sent them to JQ flying a group of backpackers back and forth.

Mr Joyce's terminal decline, Red Q, Dubai Hub, JQ 'franchises' in Asia and now a 'transformation' which netted him personally many millions in excercised options but left Qantas far worse for his 'leadership'

With the 'random walk' in aviation completed and little international network remaining, QF finally has an aircraft that lowers CASK (fuel) and may still give a reasonable RASK.

Even 'integrity' filled journalists, bursting with free booze, note that 19 airlines fly them, all 614 of them.

With well over half the passengers now choosing other airlines (all mostly through Asia) Mr Joyce returns to Singapore with a game changing aircraft, which although new, will (according to sources operating the aircraft) not make EGLL consistently from Perth.

Eventually he will again fill an aircraft full of self interested 'journalists' fresh from their family upgrade flight, chairman's lounge and Qantas provided accommodation and proudly proclaimed he 'listened to the customers' and Melbourne passengers will enjoy flying to London via Singapore!

Outside of the home market myopic of Australia, where advertising revenue ensures favourable stories in mainstream media, Mr Joyce is missed very much by his village.

Wonderworld 21st Oct 2017 11:30

The author of that piece was a pita when I worked at Qantas and had the misfortune of having to deal with him a few times when he was in PR. Hasn’t changed I’d say.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 21st Oct 2017 11:35


Even 'integrity' filled journalists, bursting with free booze, note that 19 airlines fly them, all 614 of them.
But none are configured so elegantly! Do the QF ones get marble fire places and crystal chandeliers?

wheels_down 21st Oct 2017 11:54

That article is vomit inducing. The photo was enough let alone reading it.

ruprecht 21st Oct 2017 20:06


I transfer immediately to an underground cider bar, where I find Alan Joyce, Neil Perry and Paul Howes
What was Paul Howes doing there? :yuk:

Rated De 21st Oct 2017 21:57


What was Paul Howes doing there?
He is a partner doing Lord knows what at KPMG. Connections there are as perplexed as you! Someone without a year 12 pass, let alone any tertiary education a partner in a top four accounting firm!

In a speech in February 2014, Howes declared agreement with the Abbott Government saying there had been "unsustainable growth in wages" in some sectors of the economy..

One ponders whether he was referring to executive remuneration? Was he thinking of Mr Joyce when the bar tab was paid? As is evident from your ABS data, unions (of which he was an executive) before changing sides have done little for those who pay them to advance their interests.

Nominal wage price index change

Ken Borough 22nd Oct 2017 00:00

I assume Howes was accompnying Olivia Wirth, his wife.

tdracer 22nd Oct 2017 05:14


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 9898614)
Arriving in Sydney at 7am would mean departing Seattle around 10pm?
Maybe Boeing staff don’t like working after 5pm. :}

Paine Field has a curfew...

BTW, if it's line number 615, it's not quite 614 already in service - the first five were not delivered (the first three were gifted to museums, not sure what happened to 4 and 5). A better comparison might be that it's the 254th 787-9 delivered.

Cessna Jockey 22nd Oct 2017 22:59

It’s been a long time since I’ve gotten air sick, but reading that article was a good reminder of what it felt like.

God knows how many rejected novels are piled in that bloke’s room, decorated with “return to sender” stamps from various publishers.

From The Australian about the above author:


Meanwhile, Michael Clarke’s Ashes Diary 2015 has copped a caning for its plodding prose and lack of revelations. The Sunday Herald Sun went hard, giving it one star and asking: Q: What’s worse than losing the Ashes? A: This book. Even Clarke seems a little lukewarm in the book’s acknowledgments, not even fessing up his ghostwriter’s name: “A big thank you to two mates, Jim and Joe…”. Jim would be Jim Kelly, Clarke’s manager, and Joe would be Aston, a good mate of Kelly and the person who put Clarke’s recollections to print, such as they were.


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