I can understand why various 'mediazzi' would have been onboard, but I don't get why the uniform designer and the head chef, among others, needed a week's free all-inclusive holiday at Qantas's expense. :(

Because the QF 787 is a GAME CHANGER and they are all GAME CHANGERS in their field...

:rolleyes:

Wee-man's ego. He's splashin' the cash. Shareholders cash of course, certainly not his. And of course the 51% shareholding Australian Govt and therefore tax payer, but gee - who's counting? Certainly not the analysts and journo's who should be! I actually don't blame him for this, but he's spent their money building Lounges and handing out freebies (the one thing he IS good at) to ensure no one questions him. If you are demonstrably not competent and have few choices - why wouldn't you rape the place for your own benefit and while you can still engineer a profit - let the good times roll! Worked SO well for Lehmans, Bond, Skase etc.

Lovely to see Capt Norman in the LHS of the 787 in the Oz on the weekend, but I do NOT like the company she keeps!

If the 'new' logo is so vile you need two on the one aircraft - why did you spend millions to change it? Except from the perspective of a little man's ego of course...

The company with which I keep are rather amused by Mr. Joyce's antics. Kudos for him in having the audacity to claim 'record profits' were all his doing flying the same aircraft on the same contracts responsible for the 'terminal decline' of Qantas International



So in other words the aircraft is not new? 550 flying already is that the point? It is old enough to have displays in a museum? For the game was already changed and Qantas just noticed?

I've NEVER seen that put so succinctly. Double like with pike... And thanks!

PS: The game changed in 1994 (? I think it was?) when the 777 first flew. That was when the game changed. Long before Wee-Man even needed a step to get to the urinal in other words:)...

How many of the travelling junketeers spent time in the Y class cabin which is where most of their audiences and readers will sit? How may have reported on the Y class seats?

BTW, ABC Media Watch tonight did a great job ridiculing the junketeers and the free publicity they were able to generate.

I don't think Paul Barry will be getting a Chairman's Lounge invite anytime soon!
Media Watch

Did I miss something? Has the government bought 51% of Qantas?

No, you didn't miss anything! 51% Australian owned.

But that's not what you wrote in post 44 V-jet.

Then don't.

Buy a premium economy seat.

Or don't go.

Or go with someone else.

I'm sick of these precious whingers and their over-developed sense of entitlement.

Everyone wants to fly business class for nothing.

Reality check!

Does it really have the legs to make it non-techstop??

A quick look at the Annual Report for FY17 shows the top three shareholders to now be nominee companies..

HSBC Custody Nominees (Australia) Limited 727,130,598 40.21%
J P Morgan Nominees Australia Limited 324,168,744 17.93%
Citicorp Nominees Pty Limited 166,243,299 9.19%




Obviously this may have changed, but have not checked the changes to substantial shareholdings filed with ASX)


Not an Australian company among them, although technically a nominee company allows a foreign entity to hold assets embargoed (like control of Qantas shares as prescribed in the QSA)
Whatever happened to Andrew Sisson and BEM............

Worlds greatest aviation expert was on board.
 

What a great relief it was to see that the worlds greatest authority on Aviation, GT was on Board.
There's no doubt we will soon see an accurate and comprehensive report totally unbiased by all of the booze and food on board .
How good is it just to know he was on board and now the world will see all there is to know about the QF B787 with great accuracy and maybe a few mods suggested.
I don't know how on earth QF managed to persuade such an authority to go on the flight!!
:yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk:

They should paint one of these jets in the Vjet scheme, it would look brilliant.

Rated De, my reading is the nominee holding companies can also function to hold the shares for their or other investment funds, both domestic and international. It does not necessarily mean the QSA has been breached as there are many domestic funds that will be required to hold QAN shares as part of either a passive index tracking fund or active funds that seek exposure to the transport sector thus requiring QAN as it is a large stock within that market segment. There may even be over-the-counter derivative agreements between the nominee holding Co and the funds that enable the funds to simply gain exposure to price changes without actually purchasing the shares to minimise transaction costs and taxes.

The real concern is the voting rights attached to the shares who gets to exercise those? Thus a nominee fund holding the shares may scoop up all the voting rights and thus exercise direct control without having to purchase a share on their own account. Pretty clever way to exercise large economic control over the large listed companies, and a significant portion of an economy. Just musing out aloud...

edit:
Computershare have a good document on transparency of share ownership and nominee accounts: TRANSPARENCY OF SHARE OWNERSHIP, SHAREHOLDER COMMUNICATIONS AND VOTING IN GLOBAL CAPITAL MARKETS
I'm making my way through some of the document, but this passage was interesting, Section 2.1, page 4

In essence, full transparency of the beneficial owner is required, and this would be used to determine foreign ownership, and the cap that you express concern with.

Premium Economy seat review. Doesn’t look that good.

https://www.ausbt.com.au/review-qantas-boeing-787-9-dreamliner-premium-economy-seat

No - you're right. This rolling disaster of disgraceful mismanagement annoys me to the point of distraction. 51% of Qf 'owners' are AU taxpayers - likely YOU. Have a Super account domiciled in AU? Guess who you're therefore likely supporting???

Either I could say I should have a job in QF management - except there would be a few home truths spake that would likely make me inadmissible for the role, or these questions need to be asked. Of everyone.

I don't blame Qf for making the most of the 787. What pisses me off to distraction is that Wee-Man is clearly personally gloating and using YOUR money to big - note himself. And he wasn't underpaid before he started.

CT and DE - just read your latest. Makes me angrier than I was when wrote the post above.

These guys haven't been even attempting to run a serious airline, they have been into financial alchemy for their own benefit utilising a vehicle that an entire nation once held dear...

You mean - the way it should have been? And not have spent tens of millions (at least) in splashing one's ego around the globe?? The new logo(s) aren't Qf, they are straight Alan. He wanted his moniker on the door and around the world. Again - at what cost??

I imagine that if crew rest were assigned one of the seats down the back, your answer might have been different.

Now, that's just an ignorant reply.

Are you somehow trying to equate the importance of crew remaining rested and alert enough to land an aeroplane after a 17 hour flight with the importance of those in bogan class arriving at their destination well rested. I'm sure you could still crack the top of your first Bintang even after 17 hours in economy.

In fact, pilots are allocated a seat in in the back for crew rest. As the pilot crew rest has two beds, and only one seat, a second seat is allocated down the back. But it's not as comfortable as an economy seat. It's a folding crew seat.

Heh yeah the 78 tcrf is ****house

Did I hear correctly?

Qantas mini pilot uniforms in small sizes available pre-christmas, designed by Martin Grant?....

Surely there will orders rushing in from QCA 9 for the smaller sizes? :E

No, they're the ignorant replies.

I find it deeply offensive that some self-entitled posters in this thread equate flying anything other than premium economy or business class enforces an automatic classification of bogan on those souls. If business or premium were the only classes available for air travel, half of you lot would be out of a job. Disgusting snobbery.
Out.

And winner of the gold medal in the outrage olympics is.......

Oh get over yourself. Or go have a little cry if it makes you feel better.

Who I feel “deeply offended” by is the Mrs Bogan and her two rugrats, in orbit around her 150kg frame, who kept several hundred passengers waiting for over 30 mins. Many of whom had purchased first, business class and premium economy tickets. While she waddled herself to the boarding gate. No apology, just demanded an extension seatbelt. She probably complained about what she paid for an economy seat too. And she was probably “deeply offended” the airline didn’t have s fatty seat just for her. Maybe she expected an upgrade for nothing due to the fact that she was the size of a small moon. That’s how these permanently offended thieves of oxygen work. Making others feel guilty.

She would have been offloaded if she hadn’t already checked in 8 bags that were in various holds throughout the aircraft.

Yes these BOGANS should swim.

Wow, IsDon wins the 2017 Qantas First & Business Service Award in the "Who let these filthy economy passengers on MY aeroplane" section.

I agree with IsDon. It's Qantas. They invented Jetstar to cater for those types.

I take pride in flying good quality people around on Qantas aeroplanes. I don't want to transport bogans to their cheap holidays.