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Density 3rd Oct 2016 06:01

Anyone have any idea as to when it is likely that interviews etc might be offered to EOI?

Density 3rd Oct 2016 09:33

Username: This is is just my own personal opinion without any substantiation however I would be very surprised if Qantas would look at your application unless you have served x amount of time with x subsidiary. I would imagine that mainline would want to best serve those that have provided some service to the company first and foremost.

atlas12 3rd Oct 2016 21:51

I was going to throw an application in and see what comes of it. Not too keen on taking a back seat for x years (feel a bit over qualified for that now), but the job security is very appealing.

Good luck to all :ok:

Capt Fathom 3rd Oct 2016 22:05


feel a bit over qualified for that now
Be sure to mention that during the interview. :E

"Littlebird" 3rd Oct 2016 23:44

Atlas12 - if that's the way you feel then I would say trust this. You could always apply to be an SO at a later stage.
A couple of mates flying 737's in NZ for the past 18 months are now flying the 787 as FO's with Norwegian Air and love it! That's only one example. All the best with your decision.
L.B

Popgun 4th Oct 2016 02:05

Don't Dilly Dally!
 

You could always apply to be an SO at a later stage.
If you 'think' you might be interested in the QF gig you would be best to apply sooner rather than later. Your professional life will be ruled by your seniority number. Nobody ever wished they were more junior in this game!

Unless you're already in the left seat of an Australian jet (or very close to it) or over about 35-40 years old then you could do worse than a QF SO position.

Anyone going for this position, however, needs to play the long game.

Patience and time invested should reward handsomely one day (as long as you are young enough to be able to afford the wait!) and you will enjoy an extremely enviable lifestyle (think above-industry-average amounts of time off) along the way!

"Littlebird" 4th Oct 2016 02:51

Ok this is the thing...If you think you might want the job, not sure, etc, you are sitting on the fence undecided, and this will without a doubt be conveyed in the psych and interview process.
I've seen many good potential applicants miss out over the years.

One shot one kill...L.B :cool:

lee_apromise 4th Oct 2016 05:49


Unless you're already in the left seat of an Australian jet (or very close to it) or over about 35-40 years old then you could do worse than a QF SO position.
What is the general consensus for the optimum age for new QF SO?

Early 20s? Mid 20s? Late 20s? Early 30s?

Somebody with uni degree, some work experience, flight training and some overseas work experience who missed 2008 recruitment must be in late 20s now. 28 too late?

Certainly, younger the better but what is the maximum age you guys consider for a new QF SO to be appropriate?

SixDemonBag 4th Oct 2016 06:26

In the last 'drive' there was at least one guy well into his 50's. hard to quantify a perfect age.

Omega471 4th Oct 2016 06:41

Good to know
 

Originally Posted by SixDemonBag (Post 9529403)
In the last 'drive' there was at least one guy well into his 50's. hard to quantify a perfect age.

"Late" to the industry and loving it!!! Was worried about my age, but will NEVER die wondering. Surely SO on an A330 has to be better than piston twins!!!

My career goal is to finish with more command than co-pilot.

Falling Leaf 4th Oct 2016 07:00


My career goal is to finish with more command than co-pilot.
My career goal is to earn the most amount of money for the least amount of work (stress). :8

Popgun 4th Oct 2016 08:15


What is the general consensus for the optimum age for new QF SO?

Early 20s? Mid 20s? Late 20s? Early 30s?

Somebody with uni degree, some work experience, flight training and some overseas work experience who missed 2008 recruitment must be in late 20s now. 28 too late?

Certainly, younger the better but what is the maximum age you guys consider for a new QF SO to be appropriate?
That's a question that doesn't really have one answer. An intermediate answer would be, "it depends".

It is mainly dependent on who you fly for and what you get paid now as well as what level of importance you place on factors such as pay, conditions, job security, promotion prospects, type of flying etc etc.

From a pure remuneration perspective, if you are earning significantly more in your current job than you'll earn as a QF SO then you need to make a calculation (based on rubbery assumptions) as to how long it might be before you make up the lost earnings and begin to overtake. Is it likely or possible that it will be 2, 5, 10 or even 20 years before you make up the deficit? Know one can predict seniority list progression with certainty so there will always be an element of risk in the assumptions made.

Or, you mightn't even care too much about the remuneration and have decided, for instance, that constant 4 sector days (think JQ A320 Ops), regional flying (think Rex), GA, the Military or a life in the sand (EK, EY, QR) is not for you long term.

Horses for courses. Everyone will have different motivations and goals (career as well as life) but 28 is certainly not too late. 35 is not too late either depending on what you're giving up to go to QF. And of course even 60 is not too old if you're just happy to have a relatively well-paid, low-stress, cushy job to see you out until you hang up your wings!

No one, simple, easy answer unfortunately.

Good luck!

PG

flitegirl 5th Oct 2016 22:34

Lee,

I have two friends who joined in the 2008 recruitment, both were 30 at the time.

Keg 5th Oct 2016 23:11

There is an email address on the website. If you're military and don't meet the specifics then it's worth asking the question. I'm pretty sure the intent isn't to exclude MIL crew who may not have MEA on their licenses.

*Lancer* 6th Oct 2016 00:39

It doesn't state that the current Instrument Proficiency Check MEA needs to be on the Australian licence.

EY_Airbus 6th Oct 2016 06:01


Originally Posted by hestonfysh (Post 9531445)
It does now.

Does it? I see they have just added a link for clarification on the minimum requirements, but it still does not specify that the current IPC MEA needs to be on the Australian licence. If it does, then this rules out all Aussies currently flying in airlines overseas (unless you are willing to perhaps spend a few $'000s for a renewal in a simulator ) which probably is not the intent.

Falling Leaf 6th Oct 2016 10:30

So when I go onto the website, there is no link to actually apply. Is the EOI closed already?

atlas12 6th Oct 2016 10:46

I think so, I couldn't find it either.

ReBjorn 6th Oct 2016 10:52

Link has disappeared, but no SO job was ever in the Careers section it directed you to.
Assuming someone uploaded the new page a little early, as from what I hear internal group applications are still open.

Keg 6th Oct 2016 11:02

Close to the mark. I did speak to the HR manager on Sunday and let them know the link was live but no jobs were actually showing in the job search. The link was never supposed to go live until the jobs actually opened in the Taleo site.

Early next week was the time frame I was given but that was also subject to change.


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