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bose1 14th Oct 2016 07:45

Density did you just do the testing for the SO position?

bose1 14th Oct 2016 07:52

When and where will the assessment centre be held?
The majority of assessment centres will be held in Sydney. Assessment centres are currently scheduled for the below dates;
 07 November ‘16
 15 November ‘16
 16 November ‘16
 17 November ‘16
 21 November ‘16
 23 November ‘16
 24 November ‘16

Found this information on the FAQ's section. Heres the link if anyone wants to read more.

http://www.qantas.com/infodetail/abo...-questions.pdf

Density 14th Oct 2016 08:08

Bose: yeah....it was damn tough

Keg 14th Oct 2016 10:29

Have yet to speak to a single soul who did the test and felt they passed let alone did well.

Density 14th Oct 2016 10:32

Keg....hahaha yeah I left the room muttering to the wife....well thats that then :-)....The numeric (being my strongest) was the worst...normally it is multi choice so you can normally eliminate completely wrong answers...in this one you there is a drop down menu with 1000 numbers and you select the one that is closet to what you came up with...within 60 secs. Arghhh

nefarious1 14th Oct 2016 10:52

Just finished the testing and figured I'm not cut out to be a pilot....but after 20+ years I suppose I'll persist

Capt Fathom 14th Oct 2016 11:24


I'm not cut out to be a pilot....but after 20+ years I suppose I'll persist
Hard to teach an old dog new tricks! :O

WannaBeBiggles 14th Oct 2016 21:42


Today's Australian said 500 apps already..
I honestly thought it'd be in the 1000's...

It'd be quite interesting to see how they hire. Talking to QF guys and girls there always seems to be a good split between ex RAAF/Army/Navy and GA, so take it'll be quite similar again this round?

Username here 15th Oct 2016 03:38

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/qantas-pilot-recruitment-drive-attracts-hundreds/news-story/43a2d15b9c3fff4ae5c1b3e0370f2022

I agree with you Biggles, I would have thought there would have been double that! Although I'm sure there are a number of people waiting until the last minute to get their MEA IPC sorted or get Medicals sorted.

500 applications for 170+ jobs... that's a 1 in 3 chance...

Keg 15th Oct 2016 03:50

That was also the number as at Wednesday..... half way through a 10 day window.

Dogman 15th Oct 2016 08:32

Guys English Proficency Level 6........I don"t ever remember having to take an english test for my license? A friend said I could do it online for $95 or something......is it necessary? If you select "no" on the application does it count you out or does Qantas recruitment give you a chance to complete it?

Cheers

DM

engine out 15th Oct 2016 08:56

I'm pretty sure that if you say you don't have it you will get an email back saying sorry you don't meet the requirements (based on speaking to a few others who had said they didn't meet various criteria) though to re-apply when you meet the criteria.

Gligg 15th Oct 2016 10:30

Whoever aces the exam is invited to become an engineer ;-)

Open Descent 15th Oct 2016 10:32

whoever aces the exam should be prevented from getting an interview!! ;)

maggot 15th Oct 2016 10:48

:D



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Keg 15th Oct 2016 12:44

I was talking to a mate about the skills test earlier today and I thought I'd add a couple of points that will hopefully put some minds to ease.

Its important to note with the skills test that it's any two applicants may not get exactly the same questions. The system is designed to interpret your answers and the next question may be tailored accordingly.

EG: The questions are time limited. The correct answer to Question 1 may be 23.5 but you'll be presented with answers ranging from 18-29 in 0.1 increments. You may not have enough time to get the exactly correct answer and instead ball park one close to the mark. Depending on how close you get to the correct answer on Q1 may have an impact on what your Question 2 may be. Pick 18.2 and your next question may well be easier than someone who picked 23.1. The question that second person gets may well be easier than someone who got the correct answer at 23.5.

Even if the follow up questions end up being the same, the reality is that given you'll have to 'ball park' some answers, even this gives them an indication as to how good your skills are.

The intent as I understand it is for the test to be highly discriminatory. Rather than have 100 pilots of whom all may pass a 'benchmark' assessment but it's difficult to differentiate between 10-20 of them as they all got all the questions correct, this test is designed to try and rate between each individual applicant. The end result is a list from 1-100 of the capabilities of each individual candidate. Maybe as Open Descent has pointed out the intent is to find the real geniuses and tell them they're way too smart to be pilots!

No pilot I've spoken to thought they had done particularly well across any of the verbal, numerical or logical reasoning tests. Despite this, some of the comments made by the HR people indicate that they were amazed at how strong some of the results were from the 120 of us that did it as part of the application process for pilot assessors. 'Rocket scientists' and 'maths whizzes' were the two phrases I recall hearing being applied to everyone across the board. Apparently it even attracted some comment back to Qantas from the people who developed the tests. I don't consider myself any smarter than the average QF driver.

So yeah, it's a dog. It's a means to an end and despite my dislike of how I felt after doing it, every applicant joining Qantas now has been through it so it's obviously delivering the info they need. I'm sure that makes some unhappy- perhaps Mohikan because he or she tends to only post when unhappy (normally projecting their unhappiness towards me but having added them to my ignore list I can't tell for sure)- but it is what it is and it's been approved by the Chief Pilot as the system they're using.

boeinginthewest, I don't know is the honest answer. I'd be surprised if they even knew who was going through the process back in 2008.

smiling monkey 15th Oct 2016 13:12

If you meet the minimums, then what does it take to get an invitation to participate in the psyco tests? Considering the online application portal only asks you to upload your license, academic records, a CV and a cover letter, what makes them choose one candidate over another for the initial stage? A good cover letter? Hours in the logbook? A nice photo on your resume?

EY_Airbus 15th Oct 2016 13:52


Originally Posted by smiling monkey (Post 9541797)
If you meet the minimums, then what does it take to get an invitation to participate in the psyco tests? Considering the online application portal only asks you to upload your license, academic records, a CV and a cover letter, what makes them choose one candidate over another for the initial stage? A good cover letter? Hours in the logbook? A nice photo on your resume?

Probably everyone who ticks the right boxes will have a crack at the psych as it's done online and I expect QF have an unlimited-use licence from the service provider. Then a ranking can be formed and taken further from this point. Just my best guess...

OM4 15th Oct 2016 21:56

So seems everyone has completed the first stage now (internals). With assessment dates as early as Nov 5, I wonder how long it will take to hear back from Q?
From what I hear it's done in order of how you went. So the top applicants will now hear back first as they work there way down the list.
Has anyone heard different?

ReBjorn 16th Oct 2016 02:44


Originally Posted by EY_Airbus (Post 9541828)
Probably everyone who ticks the right boxes will have a crack at the psych as it's done online and I expect QF have an unlimited-use licence from the service provider. Then a ranking can be formed and taken further from this point. Just my best guess...

Really wish there was a 'I meet all options of your fixed wing requirements'. Picked 300 ME PIC but no idea whether it's better to go for the straight 500.


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