Hello

My current plan is to train under EASA rules and to work in Europe for an airline within the next two years (hopefully).
However, if that did not work, I would be very tempted to go abroad (outside of Europe)
Having spent almost six months in Sydney I must say I loved most of it (except the cost of living)

Is there any chance that an Australian airline would recruit a European pilot ?
Not necessarily Qantas.
By the way, is an Australian pilot career more similar to an European or to an American one ? (do cadets get to fly airbus aircraft or do they have to log thousands of hour on smaller A/C before doing so?)

I heard that two major criteria for immigration were english proficiency and academic qualifications, and I tick both squares. Other squares to tick would be.. licence conversion and getting hired ?

Thanks

Hmmm. Another thread?
 

Hi KayPam,

I'm not sure that you've found the right thread for this question however I couldn't find the right one myself (I went back to Oct 2013).

If you can work in Europe that's a great start. You will see turbines much much sooner than you would in Australia but always beware the wages and conditions.

Once you have some turbine experience you MAY find something in Australia but to be sponsored for a working visa it'll have to be the right experience on the right aircraft (think European pilots rated on the ATR-72 about 5 years ago with Virgin and the then-Skywest).

Aviation in Australia is cutthroat and usually, though not always, involves low pay in light aircraft single-pilot operations from regional or remote towns (and regional in Australia is not the same as regional in more populated continents).

You could look at paid cadetships but I'm not sure about immigration implications with that and you'd need a big chunk of cash.

Best of luck but again, I think you might get more information on some other thread.

FCB

Good for us up here in HKG to see QF is taking their time with recruiting new SO's. Thank you Australia... keep sending the Saab, ATR, and Dash pilots! Most I've seen are still going with the QF process after months, and still waiting apparently? Great to see many new faces around the city:ok::cool:
L.B

Yeah ive flown with a few guys over the years with 6 months of cathay service.

Yep, guess that's what happens when recruitment has no experience in actual pilot recruitment and have no idea what they're doing. It seems like Talent Acquisition has caused more pilots to leave the group than it's recruited since opening applications early last year. Hyperbole I know but you get the point.

Group pilots are looking for the door and if mainline won't take them, there are plenty of other airlines out there that'll have them.

Smart move, if history has taught us anything, and recruitment's current behaviour has expanded on that knowledge, the best place to be if you want to join Qantas is anywhere but the group.

Fill ya boots

All quiet...

Anyone who's been to the assessment days lately or in contact with HR care to give an update?

Assessment days. New scenarios. Different questions in interviews. Scheduled to settle down into a more regular routine of occurring a couple of times a month on an ongoing basis rather than doing a 'surge' every 6 months or so.

8 trainee S/Os a month on the A330 for the foreseeable future*. 8 787 S/O trainees to start from May or June (can't remember) and to also be every month for the foreseeable future*.

Still an overwhelming desire to prioritise those within the group and take them first. That won't be to the detriment of taking the best candidate though. It's still competitive after all. Just that but being in the group shouldn't be viewed as the detriment it once was.

* My assessment of foreseeable future is the end of this year. We will know more about beyond that about April when the annual training vacancies are published.

My pleasure.

Rumours persist about DE PER 737 F/Os. Hasn't happened yet. That doesn't mean it won't. I've not spoken to anyone in authority about it.

8 787s will need about 160 S/Os.

The place isn't that bad. It's not even connected to the National Electricity Market. :D

A question Keg. Would 8 787's need 160 pilots total or really that many SO's?

I sincerely hope you're right there Keg but if that's true then why has barely anyone from QLink and nobody from JQ been asked to come to an assessment day?

I admit that I can't cover 100% of the pilots so there are surely some that I'm not aware of but I haven't heard of ANY from JQ going past the video interview.

Second that FogBuster.....lots of Qlink guys I know (non LOI or cadets) have interviewed but no one I know has a start yet. JQ guys well thats a different story...we must have ALL done so poorly in the psych / video interview:hmm:

I know of 1 JQ guy who's got an interview on 22nd Feb so the trickle of JQ guys being given the opportunity has started but not like the flood gates at Qlink, Cobham, Network etc

Network and Cobham guys are getting a look in for 2nd interview?? Nice hear but any idea of how many??? Any i've spoken too or heard of are hearing crickets

blumoon,

Only heard that through mates. Qlink though I know at least 10 guys who have been through the entire process (non LOI / cadet)

No one will ever come out and say this because officially they are giving preference to internal applicants but...

Obviously they are coordinating their interview dates with the operational requirements with each AOC. I know this happened to cadets within QLINK who were all told it was "merit based". They couldn't afford to lose 25 captains in QLINK in one hit even if they were the 25 best guys and girls. They ran courses with a mix of FO's and captains to make in manageable for QLINK.

It makes perfect sense and is a smart way to do it. It's not fair on the individual who may be held back because they are a training captain or because they are under crewed in that airline. I'm sure merit based is then applied once they have decided they can afford to lose you from your said position.

My opinion only and based solely on observation of this thread and talking with people.

Ps, holding back 777/787 rated guys for the introduction of 787 also makes a lot of sense too.

Since when is Cobham part of the QF group?

I get the contract and the paint job but still don't get the rest.

Frq

Don't forget Network. I know of a a few blokes that are awaiting reference checks. Might've had them done by now.

I know of at least one CX 777 SO that has interviewed.

Short answer: They're not!


More like QF's whipping boy.