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LeastFuelMostSafe 6th Jun 2023 09:17

Attn: QFPP Graduates
 
I offer a little advice for the sky gods that have 'graduated' from QFPP in Zoowoomba.

You're failing your interviews for Qantas subsidiaries in spectacular fashion. Word is getting around.

Just because the word Qantas is loosely involved in your pilot training, does not mean that you are guaranteed a job at Qantas or any of its subsidiaries.

Please, prepare for your interviews properly. If you spent $100k or you're a female and got a Qantas grant for your training, at least spend $500 in an interview coaching session to prepare. Go to Flight Experience and do an introductory session to learn the characteristics of a jet.

Know your IFR knowledge back to front.

Sincerely, your future cockpit buddy.

On Guard 7th Jun 2023 23:47


Originally Posted by Avi8terdude2023 (Post 11446069)
im not sure as don’t know them personally but when checking in I was told possibly not to expect anything this year and I got my yes last July.

Yes I was the same and was October yes. Think they’re doing a lot of internal.

smiling monkey 8th Jun 2023 00:33


Originally Posted by LeastFuelMostSafe (Post 11446622)
I offer a little advice for the sky gods that have 'graduated' from QFPP in Zoowoomba.

You're failing your interviews for Qantas subsidiaries in spectacular fashion. Word is getting around.

Just because the word Qantas is loosely involved in your pilot training, does not mean that you are guaranteed a job at Qantas or any of its subsidiaries.

Please, prepare for your interviews properly. If you spent $100k or you're a female and got a Qantas grant for your training, at least spend $500 in an interview coaching session to prepare. Go to Flight Experience and do an introductory session to learn the characteristics of a jet.

Know your IFR knowledge back to front.

Sincerely, your future cockpit buddy.

Do they even meet the minimum's for the likes of NJS, EFA and Network? Those operators require at least 1000 to 1500 hours minimum.

q400link 8th Jun 2023 02:25


Originally Posted by smiling monkey (Post 11447578)
Do they even meet the minimum's for the likes of NJS, EFA and Network? Those operators require at least 1000 to 1500 hours minimum.

They don't need to.

smiling monkey 8th Jun 2023 03:21


Originally Posted by q400link (Post 11447605)
They don't need to.

Just goes to show how BS those minimum requirements are when you need pilots.

BoomTimes 8th Jun 2023 07:23


Originally Posted by q400link (Post 11447605)
They don't need to.

Incorrect.

Angle of Attack 8th Jun 2023 10:53

At the moment a pulse and a valid license will get you a look in anywhere…

gordonfvckingramsay 8th Jun 2023 11:30


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 11447816)
At the moment a pulse and a valid license will get you a look in anywhere…


And/or a foreign passport.

sellect 8th Jun 2023 12:29

Any word on when Qantas will accept new applications again?

Slezy9 8th Jun 2023 21:45

Apparently still 300 on the hold file, I guess it depends on how quickly it depletes.

Makiko 8th Jun 2023 23:25

Likely 18 months at present rate

How are Qlink dash releasing the 130 or so they have on HF ?

Seniority or performance in selection process ? JQ release to ML on seniority , Network ?

Internals processed again in January 2024 , get another 150 or so & you are good until the end of 2025

Not seeing a lot of opportunity for applications to open to externals, but QF have been telling people this since 2016 - we hire to group & then you can jump around

Looking all closed up in the USA atm for Regional FO entry - game changes yet again

soseg 9th Jun 2023 01:01


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 11448088)
Apparently still 300 on the hold file, I guess it depends on how quickly it depletes.

And how many quit the day after QF gives them a 737 TR, going off to fly in the USA.

Makiko 9th Jun 2023 01:49

Yes they will be quitting in their hundreds

It would be so tempting to leave your home country legacy , that has never (well 50 years) made a pilot compulsory redundant
to go work on a two year renewable visa , in a country where almost all majors have been in bankruptcy, lost employee pensions & furloughed
a quarter of pilots in 2001 & GFC, often for several years , in this century

The retirees from USA big three are in such a vastly superior position to guys who did 40 years at QF (Donald, Dooonaaald where is my pension ?)

QF mainline pilots are treated with such "disrespect" & work under such appalling repressing contracts

They will all go to the USA

Look at the resignation data , 100s every month quitting " I'm not going to take it anymore""

maggot 9th Jun 2023 02:46

Yeah but some have, recently. FAA check during training and off to atlas etc

Qf bond but not much afaik

Makiko 9th Jun 2023 03:38

People claim that , have to say I would be sceptical
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back

Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania

soseg 9th Jun 2023 05:49


Originally Posted by Makiko (Post 11448154)
People claim that , have to say I would be sceptical
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back

Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania

It's almost 4pm in Sydney. Arent you meant to be patting puppies and doing yoga on a Friday? Which department in management do you work in?

The fact is, plenty new starters, or about-to-starters have given QF the flick. Why would you bother if you're say... 40 or older? You may never see a command.
Why would you bother if you've already done time overseas in a reputable airline like CX (before it went south), or the middle east? Sit as an SO for how long? Or get worked hard on the maggot for how long?
News flash buddy. Mainline has been shrinking for over 15 years now. The only progression mainline guys and girls are seeing is purely due to retirements. Go compare the fleet size of today versus 2010 or 2005.

Every new frame is going to QLink.

Stop trying to push your management narrative here. You're not being paid to sit on pprune. Get back to work.

Makiko 9th Jun 2023 06:10

Patting puppies - do they actually do that " on campus" ?

Doesn't surprise me

But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys

The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done

As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline

Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus

But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.

The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management

Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat

Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world

Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening

soseg 9th Jun 2023 07:35


Originally Posted by Makiko (Post 11448179)
Patting puppies - do they actually do that " on campus" ?

Doesn't surprise me

But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys

The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done

As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline

Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus

But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.

The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management

Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat

Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world

Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening


The part you got wrong was claiming nobody from QF has left, or is looking to leave.

Also , learn , how , to , comma and how to " use" " inverted " " commas".

Painful reading something that a 5th grader could type out more clearly.

josephfeatherweight 9th Jun 2023 11:05


Originally Posted by Makiko (Post 11448154)
Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders,

You are talking about Qantas, yeah?

MaxAuto 9th Jun 2023 17:36


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 11448088)
Apparently still 300 on the hold file, I guess it depends on how quickly it depletes.

Does that 300 include both off the street hires and subsidiary Pilots?


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