HTL I'm lead to believe your Perth brothers are 85hrs + .. all to Bali and Singapore via Bali - only. Not a lifestyle base.... But that is determined by what's important to you ...

If you are offered a position with Jetstar is it on the proviso that you have an endorsement?

Ie. They will pay for it but you won't get paid until you have completed it or are you paid from the day you start the endorsement?

You're not paid until after you complete the endorsement.

How is this acceptable i.e. not getting paid whilst training during the endorsement? How long is the endorsement - 6 weeks... Is that even legal?
How do people go so long without income?

Because at the moment you are not employed until you have an A320 endorsement, it is a requirement for you to be rated on your start date, Jetstar will facilitate organising the rating and will pay for it.

This will change next year when Jetstar gets approval to provide its own A320 Type Ratings.

I have an upcoming interview next month. I will appreciate if some one could provide details on planning activity, sim assessment and interviews. Is there any place in Melbourne where you could go for sim practice?

What's the latest news with JQ recruitment, or has everyone jumped ship to QF?? I'm hearing they'll need to stock up on SO's soon, not just FO's! Anyone in the know?

Are Jetstar really cancelling the odd flight due lack of crew?
Cheers, Chippy

Yes

Jetstar cancels two flights from Wellington to Auckland - National - NZ Herald News

Was that jetfleet or turboprop?

That route is A320

I'll fly for them lol

The difference is that NZ has about four times the number of flights that JQ has so a cancellation has less impact.

Are all new hires going to Mel base or is there a chance of choosing to go to BNE, CG or CNS?

They currently have a new intake of pilots starting every 3-4 weeks. It is ongoing for the foreseeable future.

Looks like its not just the airlines who are having trouble understanding that machinery needs someone trained to drive it! Pun intended:8

Queensland Rail disruptions: Annastacia Palaszczuk 'furious' over 100 cancelled trains in Brisbane - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Has there been anyone go through the interview process recently? What is the general process?

What bases might you expect initially?

There have been lots of interviews and continuing into the future.
Process is psychometric online tests, interview with sim ride and flight planning exercise all on the same day.
Not sure about bases yet

Sounds like the people responsible for the allocation of driver/pilot numbers are the same numpties whatever the transport method.

Queensland Rail: Brisbane train driver overtime blows-outs to nearly 19,000 hours - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

And their response is the same, more overtime or in the case of Jetstar a massive increase in day-off payments. I wonder if the QR people who created the problem will also be part of the solution.

Just playing devil's advocate for a moment... re overtime etc
 

It's not a problem until it becomes more expensive than another alternative.😉

If "additional duty" payments are cheaper than hiring more pilots (training, superannuation, OH&S etc) there is little incentive for hiring. However if the pilots get fatigued by constant additial duties and, as is their legal responsibility, make themselves unavailable for same (or go sick), the costs associated with cancelled services may outweigh those of hiring.

Only then will a 'solution' need to be found....🤔😏

Jetsbest is onto it.
Working on a day off should be a tiny payment if you want your company to get serious about maintaining their staff numbers. If they know they can plug holes with someone who is on a day off they can run reeaal lean man, real lean.

Brakerider:

I can't tell you much about the current process as I've been here a while but if you want Sydney or Melbourne then there's probably not much of a wait. More and more pilots are getting out of these bigger bases as their seniority affords it because of the cost of living.

A guy I flew with the other day has been here six months and bid for Sydney some weeks ago and was allocated Sydney in the very next roster. Outport base wait times though are much less predictable.

JB and framer. Absolutely spot on in a well run organisation that has a strategic outlook on pilot numbers. The same result can however be achieved through sheer incompetence and when the wheels fall off they fall off in a big way as they did on the weekend of the AFL Grand Final. It was only then that senior management realised that the second scenario was in play at Jetstar. A bit like the management at QR http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-0...as-day/8164352

Pilots are not leaving the bigger bases for cost of living reasons. They are going to smaller bases for the better rosters.

expat FO
 

hey guys

with the massive recruitment drive as advertised on their website, would anyone shed some light on possible 457 visa(business long stay visa) for A320 FO position with Jetstar in Australia.

CASA ATPL 4000TT with A320<100hrs

cheers
toc

Don't take this the wrong way but you would be lucky to get hired with that experience as a local.

Tocum,

With the number of positions on offer (over 150 just this year alone we've been told to expect), from a mate who's helping out with the recruitment, they are struggling to find suitable applicants i.e. CASA part 61 licence holders.
If you have that I can almost guarantee you'll get an interview.
To give you an idea I had around 3000hr when I got accepted and heavy turbo prop time (no jet)....

What would you classify as a heavy turbo prop?

With Tiger winding down the Airbus operation over the next 24 months

Has there been much movement Tiger => Jetstar?

Max123,

Dash 8-Q400 time - no surprises where I came from

I dont think a DHC 8 qualifies as a "heavy" TP. A C130 or AN12 yes. AN 22 with a MTOW of 11400kg absolutely. DHC 8? No.

Geez this site is full of some wank these days. Who gives a crap if the bloke said 'heavy'.

Thanks Chadzat

I was using the exact words recruitment / flight ops used and having 'heavy' turbo prop time (> 20t according to them) meant I only had to do 100hr line training and 4 sectors for landing assessments (usually 8 if you're off the Saab / B1900)

Don't be a dick pilotchute...

expat FO
 

hey guys

thanks a lot for the inputs, esply from high to low.

Got over 2000hrs on the Q400, the rest on the B190. I reckon I should give it a go and hopefully it will work out!

cheers
toc

I wasn't being a dick but I will now. The 20T "heavy" TP rule is designed to advantage ex Military people with P3 (Electra) or C130 time. The fact that the Q400 qualifies by about 200kg is a coincidence. It should read "heavier" than 20T but HR write the ads not flight ops.

I've also seen "Frozen ATPL" on a few ads in Oz as well. Going call me out on them?

tocum,

If your CASA licence is the new Part 61 (not the old style one) and you have the right to live / work here you'll get an interview for sure. At the moment they seem to be targeting guys from Network, Alliance, VARA etc but I know for a fact the biggest issue they have is finding guys with the Part 61 licence...

Good luck mate - I joined 5 years ago and it has vastly improved. Great bunch of guys and gals to fly with and I find flight ops (notice I said I - some guys will still whinge like always) to be quite supportive. I'm in a small base though so that might help my outlook on things..based in SYD/MEL is a different story from what I hear from mates.

PM me if you want any further details.

expat FO
 

@ high_to_low; yes indeed I have the new Part 61 lic. Actually, the right to live/work in Oz is gonna be the problem unless Jetstar sponsors for the visa.
Please check your pm.

@pilotchute; I don't want to burst your bubbles, the MTOW of the Q400 is 29,574KG- heavier than u think & please stay calm in case i misinterpreted your msg!

Pilotchute, a Q400 is a big aeroplane. It is roughly the same size and weight as many regional jets. It's well over 20T.

I'd suggest some humble pie.

And compared to something like a King Air, a Q400 is a heavy turboprop.

3 years LWOP offered to JQ AUS A320 FO to NZ....

AUS must be in surplus

Melbourne Centre this is Qlink 400 "heavy" request....

I can see the controllers in fits of laughter!

I think you're the only one being laughed at.