@hestonfysh
Email arrived today re invitation to psychometric testing so keep refreshing that inbox...

^^^

I got the same email inviting for round 2 testing, however there was no link attached to the email?

Same for you?

Whats the process ? Is it video then psychometric testing then interview ?

Does anyone know whats happening at the Jetstar nz regional side of recruitment ? Info would be highly appreciated

@Flyboy1987
The email just states the next step is receiving a link to the testing.

@A185F
Here's the process in QLink's own words:
QantasLink Recruitment: Attention

GoNumbers,

That's an old recruitment site, Taleo is used these days not Bfound. Some of the info on the Bfound site is out of date.

When did you guys do your video interview before getting invited to Psych? I haven't received a psych eval e-mail as yet, hopeful still :)

Just sat psych test....do not take this test lightly.

Having studied financial planning/accounting at university, this test was what I believe to be far too difficult, especially under the strict time guidelines. Testing ran by a UK mob called TalentQ, numerical and logical part was extremely difficult, I know I have not scored high, but I do not believe anyone will. Sounds completely different to the older format of testing they had. If anyone has also done the test let me know, would be nice to have a discussion.

@Flyboy1987 when did you complete your video interview?

@nzkiwipilot about a month or so ago.

I second that @Flyboy1987 done a lot of testing with different airlines and that was just plain (excuse the pun) crazy. I should have become a doctor, a lot less time trying to decipher arrows (If you have done the test you will get this analogy)

FWIW and hopefully relevant today to most QF 'group' airlines:

A lot what QF is doing is just plain crazy. Get used to being treated like a child. Many things better than flying for them, however, hopefully this will allay some fears and if not (or it's wrong), nothing lost:) I assume most here would be smart enough to take all on board but ditch the rubbish!

I don't know what they are 'seeking' now (though someone without an opinion on anything would likely be right up there) but in the old days the purpose of psych testing was to tire you to the point they knew you weren't lying (you can't cross reference 800+ questions) and meet certain 'nebulous' criteria. They want to know you won't turn into a wacko if stressed. The actual 'real' pilots interviewing (should) be a lot more practical.

The arrow reference sounds similar to what I did. And back then it was just as bizarre. If it's the same 'type' of thing, they are not after perfect scores but a rate of change/improvement in spatial awareness in an unfamiliar environment. In todays terms, I guess, hoping you will be able to 'cope' in a situation like the Learmonth A330 that decided it was stalling in cruise, or AF447.

They know you will be nervous and unsure. They probably want that - proves you are human and not over cocky - something they hate, even if 'they' perceive it incorrectly. And that was the old days, before AJ decided to sack everyone who might even suggest his watch could be two seconds slow.

Flyboy- as a tongue in cheek word of warning, put away any (if it was good) financial planning knowledge you might have, because aside from management self enrichment, there is no financial plan at QF group companies! More seriously, what you've written seems from memory along the lines of what our group did. I tried to get everything correct (and wouldn't have come close) a mate got to 2 minutes to go and just filled out answers to 'finish'. We both got in, go figure.

Obviously prepare, be concerned but not overly so, be practical, take it as it comes but more importantly I would suggest - don't try to be 'fake', that will be found out and will count against you. There are a lot of not very bright crew out in any airline - it is well known perfection doesn't really exist. More than ever, crew are not leaders, but pawns in the company. They may say they want to hire junior captains, but its really captains who will tow the company line under ANY circumstances that they really want:).

If you get through or not, do NOT take it as a major 'fail' in life, and I mean what I write, many I know would consider (20 years later) getting in as being a 'fail'. It is a very big world out there and flying for a living very soon becomes a job. An extremely demanding job for (nowadays) only reasonable pay. Also remember that even in the same industry different people simply do not fit particular companies. That is not 'your' fault, nor is it 'theirs'. You will know people who get in and you will think 'What the F***?' and others who won't get in and you will think 'What the F***?'. And I've known some who were rejected by QF 20+ years prior to them being accepted! Not getting into a very controlled environment (like English boarding school) might be the biggest break of your life.

Just skimming through the previous 10 or so posts. If you do get in and are flat broke, very politely ask if it might be possible to advance you a pay or two. No pilot would ever take that the wrong way, and at that stage they want you out online asap, not having to repeat sims because you cant afford to eat. And they can only say 'no'.

PS: I just had a quick look at the TalentQ website (mainly to see if any QF Directors or ex Directors had set the thing up to further enrich themselves - the name is suspicious and I do not trust anyone anymore, but I digress).Regarding the testing, it would seem my recollection seems to still be pretty accurate. They mention (basically) be practical and honest.

https://www.trytalentq.com/

Very true words there V-Jet. Unfortunately in Australia (and it has always been so) there are really very few flying jobs available so whilst not getting into QLink on face value may not be a big deal it could mean the end of someones flying career who is otherwise perfectly capable. I think that is why these types of testing regimes bring such angst amongst the pilot fraternity.

My other issue is once people start 'cheating' on the testing system by getting coached that basically negates any point in actually doing it in the first instance as the company is now getting a manufactured result rather than a true test of one's aptitude.

Not sure where you are at in your career, but if you haven't cracked a flying gig then your "location" may well have something to do with it.

QLink is far from the only regional in Australia. If you strike out with every regional and major then you might want to reconsider your career choices. Aviation is an industry that requires ample patience and lots of hard work to boot.

Not getting into Qlink could be the best thing that ever happened in your career. Especially if you are looking at Level 1 entry.

Curious as to your justification for singling out Level 1?

Surely there would be an excess of level 2 guys that would be suitable for the job? Is there any need for level 1 guys with next to no experience?

Even though the level 2 minimums were next to nothing, most guys I know who have applied, have in excess of 2000 hours charter experience up north plus instructor ratings and other bits and pieces.

The way things are going at the upper end of GA at the moment, you'd be on a much better wicket getting around in a King Air/Conquest/etc then in the right hand seat of a regional.

Not what I meant, I don't think. Never say die, and if you persist I'm sure that one day you will get somewhere you want to be. My cooment re being honest was purely suggesting the questions and tasks are structured in such a way as to see through any 'cheating' - strangely enough the people being paid millions to write the tests will probably be aware that unsophisticated strategies do exist - such as cheating:) Unless they are fools, they know everyone cheats in some way, their goal is to work out if you are merely stacking the deck or trying to switch the dealers entire pack with one of your own.

A friend of a friend of mine is a commercial property 'salesman' for a major international corporation. I 100% guarantee anyone he isn't any better in any way (and I would argue less) than anyone here. One deal he signed last year garnered a USD$50 million bonus. Obviously this was in addition to any mere salary he might have earned, but I put this out there as an example. Much like strippers quoting 'I earn $xx in tips every night' it's not every day such a deal happens, but if you only had one in a lifetime I think most of us would struggle by on just that. In short, flying can be bloody good fun, but it isn't everything.

Do your very best, but if it isn't what 'they' want on that particular day, many doors might open for you that you possibly wouldn't have been aware of. And if nothing else, your next interview will be a lot easier!

Lets not kid anyone here, if there are level 2 entry pilots available, QLink will not waste money on level 1. To be honest I can't see why they would.

True, but only after having flown in GA. I miss my GA days, sure I enjoy my airline pay, but I was allowed to fly in GA.

They must have a reason for it, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered creating that specification in the first place.

May have something to do with the fact that they consider they will get more years of service out of someone who lacks the experience to go ahywhere else.

Has anyone who applied for Level 1 actually had a response of any kind yet?