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roundhouse 8th Mar 2016 02:04

Qantas Link Trainee First Officer Level 1&2
 
As you already know, it's up on AFAP. Take aim and fire.

lee_apromise 8th Mar 2016 12:26

A question to those folks flying in Qlink:

Qlink is currently recruiting for Level 1 trainees (those without ATPL theory passes).

Would they accept a person who's been flying heavy turboprop in overseas but only with CPL + MECIR (no ATPL theory passes) for Level 1 trainee position?

Or is it better to complete ATPL theories on my own and apply for direct entry?

Cheers guys.

pilotchute 8th Mar 2016 20:02

If you read the criteria the level one entry requires only 1 atpl theory credit

Density 8th Mar 2016 22:03


Originally Posted by lee_apromise (Post 9303865)
A question to those folks flying in Qlink:

Qlink is currently recruiting for Level 1 trainees (those without ATPL theory passes).

Would they accept a person who's been flying heavy turboprop in overseas but only with CPL + MECIR (no ATPL theory passes) for Level 1 trainee position?

Or is it better to complete ATPL theories on my own and apply for direct entry?

Cheers guys.

Depends how much you want in...you probably have a better chance of scoring an interview at least with level 1 traineeship if you have hf atpl at least as thats what they're currently advertising. The only real advantage in waiting as I see it is if you have 2000 or more hours slightly better pay.

lee_apromise 8th Mar 2016 23:50


Depends how much you want in...you probably have a better chance of scoring an interview at least with level 1 traineeship if you have hf atpl at least as thats what they're currently advertising. The only real advantage in waiting as I see it is if you have 2000 or more hours slightly better pay.
Is Qlink providing in-house training (outsourced to other schools) to complete the rest of ATPL theories (except ATPL human factors) for Level 1 trainees?

or Level 1 trainee is going to fly Dash-8 without completing all ATPL theories like Air NZ Link FOs?

Thanks in advance.

Going Nowhere 9th Mar 2016 00:25

There's currently no in-house training for ATPL subjects and I can't see the company paying for that.

ClassCharlie 9th Mar 2016 02:02

As I read it, you don't require ATPL HUF for level 1, it merely states a "Pass in a Australian Human Factors Theory". This sounds like CPL level is acceptable.

Obviously the more you have the better...

capt spud 9th Mar 2016 03:08

When do applications close? I couldn't find a date specified.

johncognito 9th Mar 2016 04:00

70 hours PIC? Good to know toddlers are up front :ugh::ugh:
Guess i'll take my 700 pic elsewhere :}\
:=

lee_apromise 9th Mar 2016 12:58


As I read it, you don't require ATPL HUF for level 1, it merely states a "Pass in a Australian Human Factors Theory". This sounds like CPL level is acceptable.

Obviously the more you have the better...
That's what I thought too. Looks like HUF req. is for NZ license holders.

Still no idea what they wanna do with Level 1 trainees. :8

RHSandLovingIt 9th Mar 2016 18:47

Hmmmm on AFAP...

Pass in Australian ATPL Human Factors Theory
On QLink page:

Passes in all Australian ATPL Theory subjects (Level 2 only)
Pass in a Australian Human Factors theory (Level 1 only)
Don't AFAP just copy/paste ads they receive from employers?

ATPL HF makes more sense to me.

In any case, I'd stick in an app except for the bit about NZCAA licence holders needing to convert to CASA licence before applying... That's NOT a quick or easy process from what I hear! :P

rmcdonal 9th Mar 2016 21:40

I thought they did some deal a few months ago with UNSW to provide Lvl 1 Trainees. UNSW to offer ?QantasLink approved? pilot training scheme | Australian Aviation
All previous trainee-ships have had all of the required qualifications taught outside of the airline before actually joining (some as an inclusion in the traineeship). ATPL CMEIR included. Rex would be the only airline with the capability to train a pilot to ATPL in house (and maybe some of the smaller regionals with attached flying schools), everyone else outsources it to a dedicated flying school.
If you want an airline job and haven't sat the ATPL theory exams you are kidding yourself.

gordonfvckingramsay 9th Mar 2016 21:42

Safety First | Qantas

framer 9th Mar 2016 23:00


70 hours PIC? Good to know toddlers are up front
Guess i'll take my 700 pic elsewhere \
Nearly.....70 is baby, 700 is toddler ( enough confidence to negotiate the slippery footpath, not enough experience to do it slowly) .
Ps, half tongue in cheek, half true....I'm sure you're better than I was at 700 PIC :) I was a menace!

Ilikeflying 10th Mar 2016 04:37

Does anyone feel like not applying for this in anticipation of mainline recruiting?

wishiwasupthere 10th Mar 2016 04:45

I see Cobham advertised today for SAR and Dash 8 pilots. I get the feeling that there will be more ad's from companies of a similar size in the next little while as the major's begin to ramp up hiring.

Now fingers crossed for no bird flu/SARs/9-11/economic collapse/whatever else that tends to kill off hiring booms.

Density 10th Mar 2016 05:09


Originally Posted by Ilikeflying (Post 9305675)
Does anyone feel like not applying for this in anticipation of mainline recruiting?

You haven't been in aviation for very long have you to know how it works?

lee_apromise 10th Mar 2016 06:52


Does anyone feel like not applying for this in anticipation of mainline recruiting?
Have you ever gone through any recession? It's not you choose the job mate. It's the job that either chooses you or not. :=

log0008 10th Mar 2016 07:19

Not my personal situation but just wanted to get peoples thoughts, a pilot could have achieved the level one requirements by just doing training to CPL + MECIR without any work experience - any chance these people could get in? Or would it be expected to have at least some GA employment?

mikewil 10th Mar 2016 07:54

Command Positions
 
Does QLink have the required process in place to eventually upgrade these trainees to command positions?

I thought only REX was able to offer ICUS time to meet the minimums for command...

rmcdonal 10th Mar 2016 08:38


Does QLink have the required process in place to eventually upgrade these trainees to command positions?
Fairly sure they had that in place before Rex did. They can even do ATPL check rides now.
A 150 CPL pilot with IR and ATPL theory could start at QLink and in 5 years be in the left seat, likely less if they try hard to find hours (not hard up North). QLinks training department is good at what they do, and most have the experience of training the previous generations of trainees.

I really really really hope there is no maximum hour limit. I'm also keen to here from any ex cadets or current insiders that might have an answer to that.
Cadets or Trainees? QLink doesn't have a Cadet program, it ran a babysitting program for Qantas's Cadets for about 8+ years.
Previous trainees have been dropped into lower courses than their hrs would have suggested. So yes it has been possible to be a trainee when you were close to Direct Entry, or 'in-between' the 2 options.

log0008 10th Mar 2016 09:54

For those asking it states Pass in Australian ATPL Human Factors Theory, not sure if that was amended to make it clearer

lee_apromise 10th Mar 2016 11:17


For those asking it states Pass in Australian ATPL Human Factors Theory, not sure if that was amended to make it clearer
Where does it say? It still says "Pass in a Australian Human Factors theory (Level 1 only)" on Qantas Careers. Just genuinely curious.

On a side note, does anybody know a good place to convert FAA ME-CPL/IR to CASA CPL/MECIR in Perth? Time to get back home it seems. If anyone has any recommendation, PM me plz. Cheers.

log0008 10th Mar 2016 18:56

On the AFAP ad for me

Big_saint 10th Mar 2016 21:29


Where does it say? It still says "Pass in a Australian Human Factors theory (Level 1 only)" on Qantas Careers. Just genuinely curious.
It will be a requirement to have an ATPL pass in HUF, as with Part 61 it will then allow them to Issue your MCC based on your sim training.

mikewil 12th Mar 2016 22:48

Has anyone received any responses or updates on their applications yet?

mikewil 12th Mar 2016 23:26


Also the qantas website was changed on Thursday to specify HUF ATPL rather than just a pass in Australian HUF
An interesting requirement. Not many applicants will have just this, as once you start your ATPL theory it all needs to be completed in a set time to remain valid. 2 years?

lee_apromise 13th Mar 2016 07:01


Nope. But can hardly expect to hear back from them until they either close applications or if you have way more experience than the minimums. Also the qantas website was changed on Thursday to specify HUF ATPL rather than just a pass in Australian HUF.
One can get rejected for having more hours than the published minimum? what kind of logic is that?

Btw, does any insider know how long this recruitment will keep on going? May be until QF mainline starts S/O recruitment?

Average Joe 13th Mar 2016 09:35


Originally Posted by lee_apromise (Post 9308834)
One can get rejected for having more hours than the published minimum? what kind of logic is that?

Btw, does any insider know how long this recruitment will keep on going? May be until QF mainline starts S/O recruitment?

Between April and December, about 70 to be hired. It won't stop there though.

ConfigFull 13th Mar 2016 10:37

AJ,

I thought QL were overstocked - what's changed/changing!? Good news for the rest of us I guess.

Density 13th Mar 2016 10:45


Originally Posted by ConfigFull (Post 9309048)
AJ,

I thought QL were overstocked - what's changed/changing!? Good news for the rest of us I guess.

Massive shortage for the last 6 to 12 months and looks like it is only going to get worse...many FO's already reached their annual quota and having a well deserved break. The problem is training a newbie is not a 3 or 4 day gig it takes several months and within that time Emirates and Cathay or other operators are taking more. But yes good for people that want to join!

Average Joe 13th Mar 2016 10:45


Originally Posted by ConfigFull (Post 9309048)
AJ,

I thought QL were overstocked - what's changed/changing!? Good news for the rest of us I guess.

CF,

You'd be correct if you said that a few months ago. This industry is more cyclical than my bank balance.

Going Nowhere 13th Mar 2016 11:01

Time to command still 3-5/6 years depending on the base.

Still plenty of FO's in the queue for a command so very pre-mature to start talking time to command...

TaoQ400 13th Mar 2016 20:29

Interviews in South Africa
 
I don't mean to throw a spanner in the works.I just thought j would mention that Qantas Link has been in South Africa looking for Dash 8 Q400 first officers.Apparently 30 guys interviewed already and still going on.

Beech58 14th Mar 2016 06:59

Spend the money or wait or both
 
Bit shy on the twin time for direct entry but got triple all the other requirements, would they be strictly looking for newbies to train or would they rather people with a few thousand hours, multiple renewals, turbine time and most of the twin?
Hire a twin and get the hours or apply or do both that's the question isn't it?
Cheers

pilotchute 14th Mar 2016 23:26

Over 2000TT and 1000 S/E turbine command isnt enough for direct entry FO it seems!

Beech58 20th Mar 2016 23:46

Anyone got any replies yet?

YCOY 29th Mar 2016 06:11

Hi People.

Has one done a QantasLink web interview? Trying chase up what's involved.

YCOY

Density 29th Mar 2016 06:32

Patience grasshopper

Originally Posted by AreaRuleAce (Post 9326563)
Has anyone received anything yet? I've been tapping into all my resources that claim to be in the know, but this time around they know nothing!

Anyone got the inside line on the traineeships and what QLink are planning?

Cheers in advance.


eukeybound 8th Apr 2016 05:40

Any news yet?
 
Just wondering if anyone has heard anything in the last week or so. My sources have said they were winding up to hit courses hard with alternating 300 and 400 courses every 6 weeks, but nobody seems to be sure of when they will start even interviewing people.


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