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Climb150 23rd Feb 2022 23:26


Originally Posted by arena1 (Post 11189010)
Thanks for the info Kenny, did you work there, and do you know what the terms and conditions are like and is it only commutable within the US. Thanks

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/cargo/atlas_air​​​​


The link above will answer most questions. Atlas will only pay for your ticket to and from duty from a US state or territory. Airline pilot central is a wealth of info for US airlines.

Jester64 24th Feb 2022 00:53


Originally Posted by Kenny (Post 11188996)
Green card holders only. E3’s won’t be able to flow.

Exactly as I said, green card. The point I’m trying to get across is that CommutAir is the only operator that I know of that actually supports an Australian pilot to obtain the green card. If I wanted to remain in the US for the foreseeable future and flow, I would be choosing CommutAir.

Kenny 24th Feb 2022 02:57


Originally Posted by Jester64 (Post 11189100)
Exactly as I said, green card. The point I’m trying to get across is that CommutAir is the only operator that I know of that actually supports an Australian pilot to obtain the green card. If I wanted to remain in the US for the foreseeable future and flow, I would be choosing CommutAir.

Easy there mate. I was simply emphasising the point and making the distinction with regards to E3’s. I spent lunch talking to two senior ALPA guys at UAL about E3’s and they were very clear about who would be covered.

And yes, CommutAir is the best gig, if you’re looking long term.

Kenny 24th Feb 2022 03:04


Originally Posted by arena1 (Post 11189010)
Thanks for the info Kenny, did you work there, and do you know what the terms and conditions are like and is it only commutable within the US. Thanks

I haven’t worked there but I have some very good mates that have been there for about 10 years and I did have an in with the Chief Pilot, when I was back in Oz in 2012. I desperately wanted to get back to the US but couldn’t face the schedules and didn’t want to get tarnished with the Cargo Dog brush. I’d just got married as well and didn’t think the missus would be happy with a part-time husband.

bafanguy 5th Mar 2022 11:41

I see reference on APC to Avelo Airlines hiring E3s but can't find concrete evidence of it. See posts #160/161/162 in this thread:

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...s-info-17.html


DropYourSocks 6th Mar 2022 01:19

I'm not sure where exactly Avelo advertised, but aerocrew had the following link to schedule an interview with them.

Disclaimer: I have no association with Avelo, as most of you know already.


https://calendly.com/marcink-aerocre...?month=2022-03

bafanguy 6th Mar 2022 11:54


Originally Posted by DropYourSocks (Post 11195393)
I'm not sure where exactly Avelo advertised, but aerocrew had the following link to schedule an interview with them.

https://calendly.com/marcink-aerocre...?month=2022-03

DYS,

That's a pretty clear indication Avelo are talking to Aussies...or trying to. :)

bafanguy 9th Mar 2022 21:42

Just wondering...with all the US airlines openly/clandestinely recruiting/hiring Aussie pilots, will there be a worldwide Aussie pilot shortage ?

Just kidding...sort of...

Caedus 10th Mar 2022 00:52

https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...RST%20OFFICERS

Avelo on AFAP job site

tossbag 10th Mar 2022 06:50

Bafanguy, Australia does not have the 1500 hour rule. What happens is that airlines, one in particular will advertise for type rated pilots, when they get very few replies, mainly because anyone type rated on that particular aircraft has other options, they will then run bitching and moaning to the government about a pilot shortage. Fact is there are many, many Australian pilots with plenty of turbine time that could fill those positions. Australia then ends up with pilots coming into the country on 457 visas.

This particular airline has also put 300 hour pilots in the right hand seat of this aircraft so it's difficult to justify the so called 'pilot shortage' in Australia. There isn't one, not in Australia, there is a shortage of airlines that refuse to absorb the cost of doing business into their business costs. The unions representing pilots in Australia are weak, Australia has a saying, 'pissweak' the unions are pissweak.

Thumb War 10th Mar 2022 07:23


Originally Posted by tossbag (Post 11197625)
Australia has a saying, 'pissweak' the unions are pissweak.


:D
Spot on!

mcgrath50 10th Mar 2022 07:57


This particular airline has also put 300 hour pilots in the right hand seat of this aircraft so it's difficult to justify the so called 'pilot shortage' in Australia. There isn't one, not in Australia, there is a shortage of airlines that refuse to absorb the cost of doing business into their business costs. The unions representing pilots in Australia are weak, Australia has a saying, 'pissweak' the unions are pissweak.
Except union lobbying got pilot removed from the occupation list for 457 visas. Or do you believe the companies just let that fall off without a fight?

KAPAC 10th Mar 2022 08:05

Unions only as strong as their members !

bafanguy 10th Mar 2022 08:25


Originally Posted by tossbag (Post 11197625)
Bafanguy, Australia does not have the 1500 hour rule.

tossbag & mcgrath50,

Understand. I was just being a wise guy with my quip about a shortage of Aussie pilots. Mostly, I was talking about the availability of 1500 hour Aussie pilots who might be willing to come work for US carriers doing the E3.

I see from the AFAP Avelo ad that FAA ATPL is listed as "preferred". I wonder if this means they'd provide the ATPL for an E3 hire like some US regionals do.

Interesting times !

tossbag 10th Mar 2022 08:48


Unions only as strong as their members !
Excellent point. The union members are pissweak.

tossbag 10th Mar 2022 08:50


Except union lobbying got pilot removed from the occupation list for 457 visas. Or do you believe the companies just let that fall off without a fight?
How was pilot allowed on the list in the first place? Was it union picnic day?

mcgrath50 10th Mar 2022 09:05


How was pilot allowed on the list in the first place? Was it union picnic day?
You know it's not the 1970s anymore right? Cause you fellas keep voting in the Liberals unions in this country have a lot stacked against them

tossbag 10th Mar 2022 09:48

Sorry, you're going to have to explain that last post, what is the 70's reference? And the last sentence makes no sense.

engine out 10th Mar 2022 20:46

Probably referring to the fact in the 70s unions had a lot more clout. Due to a series of governments on both sides of the house changing the industrial landscape to be much more beneficial to companies and generally neutering union powers. Easy to call unions piss weak but they have very limited powers to get stubborn minded megalomaniac company CEOs to do anything they want.

Back to the discussion on pilot jobs in another country.

DropYourSocks 12th Mar 2022 00:31

Got an email today that SkyWest is taking DECs. Word is they're back on the E3 train too.

Again, I'm not associated with SkyWest... just a humble perveyor of US goings ons.

____

SkyWest is Hiring Direct Entry Captains

SkyWest Airlines is excited to announce we are hiring Direct Entry Captains! As a Direct Entry Captain, you'll have access to:
  • A Guaranteed Pilot Interiew with your choice of three mainline carriers
  • Up to $40,000 in bonuses
  • Year-for-year pay match (up to a 10-year rate) that applies to your pay scale, time off accruals and profit sharing
At SkyWest you’ll also enjoy unmatched opportunities and are not limited to just one future career path.
GUARANTEED PILOT INTERVIEWS:

Interested in flying for a mainline carrier? SkyWest is the only regional airline offering a Guaranteed Pilot Interview with Delta, United and Alaska Airlines (or all three). This ensures you have the flexibility and options to pursue the carrier that you want most. As a Direct Entry Captain you can opt-into this program and secure an interview with the carrier(s) of your choice in just 24 months. Interviews are held regularly with SkyWest captains being interviewed each month.

$40,000 BONUS:

New Direct Entry Captains at SkyWest are now eligible for up to $40,000! This incentive is paid out based on specific milestones: $5,000 after completing upgrade LOE, $5,000 six months after completing upgrade LOE, $10,000 12 months after completing upgrade LOE and $20,000 24 months after completing upgrade LOE.

Taggert 12th Mar 2022 02:01


Originally Posted by DropYourSocks (Post 11198708)
Got an email today that SkyWest is taking DECs. Word is they're back on the E3 train too.

Again, I'm not associated with SkyWest... just a humble perveyor of US goings ons.

____

SkyWest is Hiring Direct Entry Captains

SkyWest Airlines is excited to announce we are hiring Direct Entry Captains! As a Direct Entry Captain, you'll have access to:
  • A Guaranteed Pilot Interiew with your choice of three mainline carriers
  • Up to $40,000 in bonuses
  • Year-for-year pay match (up to a 10-year rate) that applies to your pay scale, time off accruals and profit sharing
At SkyWest you’ll also enjoy unmatched opportunities and are not limited to just one future career path.
GUARANTEED PILOT INTERVIEWS:

Interested in flying for a mainline carrier? SkyWest is the only regional airline offering a Guaranteed Pilot Interview with Delta, United and Alaska Airlines (or all three). This ensures you have the flexibility and options to pursue the carrier that you want most. As a Direct Entry Captain you can opt-into this program and secure an interview with the carrier(s) of your choice in just 24 months. Interviews are held regularly with SkyWest captains being interviewed each month.

$40,000 BONUS:

New Direct Entry Captains at SkyWest are now eligible for up to $40,000! This incentive is paid out based on specific milestones: $5,000 after completing upgrade LOE, $5,000 six months after completing upgrade LOE, $10,000 12 months after completing upgrade LOE and $20,000 24 months after completing upgrade LOE.

I'd assume you would still have to have 1000hrs in country Part 121 to get that DEC though..

neville_nobody 12th Mar 2022 02:30

I see they are also cancelling all government funded routes due to lack of crew.

DropYourSocks 12th Mar 2022 11:39


Originally Posted by Taggert (Post 11198719)
I'd assume you would still have to have 1000hrs in country Part 121 to get that DEC though..

You're correct.

Trigger Happy 15th Mar 2022 01:03


Originally Posted by notquiteanoob (Post 11183249)
Breeze airways application process (so far) - Embraers/Airbus A220 for Australian Nationals

1) Apply e3 visa via their own website - tick boxes etc.
2) You will receive a form from HR asking you to complete total hours etc and previous employers
3) If successful, you will be asked to do a video interview - with four pre recorded questions....i'm unsure if they change...and you will need a webcam/mic etc. You have some thinking time and then 2 mins to answer each question.

What has been your weakest area in aviation and how did you overcome that ?
If we gave you or you had some time off, what would you do ?
What has been some of your experiences that guided you / steered you in aviation
Why join Breeze ?

Email notification to say your recorded interview will be accessed by HR and will let you know in due course.
Am now waiting...

Just did my video interview as well a few days back. Just wondering if you’ve progressed at all and if you have anymore info on the job etc. PM box full.
cheers,

wlshwzd 16th Mar 2022 08:56

1 Attachment(s)
See Breeze FAQ pdf

Sent to me via another user...

bafanguy 16th Mar 2022 21:32


Originally Posted by wlshwzd (Post 11200679)
See Breeze FAQ pdf

Sent to me via another user...

That sure looks like serious Aussie bait. If they're not interested in Aussies, they have an odd way of showing it. :)

DropYourSocks 17th Mar 2022 01:05


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11201012)
That sure looks like serious Aussie bait. If they're not interested in Aussies, they have an odd way of showing it. :)

I wonder how much that cash incentive is... definitely sounds like a signing bonus once you consider the 2 year time commitment.

bafanguy 17th Mar 2022 07:45


Originally Posted by DropYourSocks (Post 11201106)
I wonder how much that cash incentive is... definitely sounds like a signing bonus once you consider the 2 year time commitment.

From a pretty reliable source, and if I understood correctly, $5,000.

DropYourSocks 24th Mar 2022 21:22

It took a long time, but as promised for the last 2 years, here is Frontier taking E3s. Have at it!! I'm also accepting beers from all the naysayers :ok:


https://www.airlineapps.com/jobs/det...ficer-E-3-Visa

gordonfvckingramsay 24th Mar 2022 23:12

So hundreds of eligible Aussies head state side because its virtually a given that Australia will be an unbearable place to live and work soon, and then our airlines lobby the government to get the 457 equivalent going again because of a pilot shortage. Everybody takes a jump to the right and wages are successfully forced down again….win win!

DropYourSocks 24th Mar 2022 23:50


Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 11205401)
So hundreds of eligible Aussies head state side because its virtually a given that Australia will be an unbearable place to live and work soon, and then our airlines lobby the government to get the 457 equivalent going again because of a pilot shortage. Everybody takes a jump to the right and wages are successfully forced down again….win win!

I'd wager the vast majority of Aus pilots are adverse to immigration for a multitude of reasons. The Australian industry's problem is the astronomically high experience levels required to fly in what is arguably one of the most benign flying environments on the planet. There is no shortage of Australian pilots, unless you're asking them to have 3000 hours in a 40 year old piston twin to then go and fly a dash 8.

In my personal experience, flying in the US is more challenging, less burdened by asinine regulations, provides far greater opportunities and generally comes with better pay and QoL.

One more thought I have to add to the above too, is what are your alternatives? Go to the next Tigerair, wait for it to collapse in 15 years and pray your can land on your feet at the next start-up? Then hope the whole cycle doesn't repeat again?

bafanguy 25th Mar 2022 00:09

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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks (Post 11205360)
It took a long time, but as promised for the last 2 years, here is Frontier taking E3s. Have at it!!

DYS,

Pretty interesting but I have one question: An ATP is listed as a "minimum" but are they saying a CASA ATP is required ? I don't see mention of any help getting an FAA ATP like the regionals do. Perhaps Frontier are trolling for E3s now at a US regional ? If that's the case, the announcement doesn't have quite the same luster.


Requirements/Qualifications (Minimums)
  • Must be an Australian National
  • Currently hold an ATP Certificate

DropYourSocks 25th Mar 2022 00:26


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11205429)
a

DYS,

Pretty interesting but I have one question: An ATP is listed as a "minimum" but are they saying a CASA ATP is required ? I don't see mention of any help getting an FAA ATP like the regionals do. Perhaps Frontier are trolling for E3s now at a US regional ? If that's the case, the announcement doesn't have quite the same luster.


Requirements/Qualifications (Minimums)
  • Must be an Australian National
  • Currently hold an ATP Certificate

I'm not 100% sure, but I would think they're doing the same thing as Spirit, Atlas et al, and taking those with US ATPs first. This is exactly why my advice earlier was for folks to take whatever opportunity they could, because more opportunities would come up as a result. Having said that, there are a limited amount of Aussies with ATPs, so I wouldn't be surprised if they open it up further down the track.

bafanguy 25th Mar 2022 11:08


Originally Posted by DropYourSocks (Post 11205431)
...taking those with US ATPs first. Having said that, there are a limited amount of Aussies with ATPs, so I wouldn't be surprised if they open it up further down the track.

Certainly plausible.

tossbag 25th Mar 2022 12:39

There have now been a lot of Australians in the US for a significant amount of time, therefore plenty with FAA ATP. I'm tipping the likes of Spirit, Frontier and Breeze are looking for Australians in country rather than fresh off the boat.

Cool banana 25th Mar 2022 20:22

Frontier recruitment
 
Armed with a business model that succeeds in any economic climate, Frontier Airlines is poised to triple in size over the next 5 years. For a new pilot, that means less time on reserve, a fast upgrade (3 – 3.5 years) and the comfort of knowing you have a stable career ahead of you.

Frontier Airlines is committed to the philosophy of Low Fares Done Right and they believe that “The Skies are for Everyone.” This philosophy allows millions of people to travel to visit family and friends, take exciting vacations or create new businesses every year and we are looking for the best pilots to help us fulfill that vision.

As part of the selection process, we ask all candidates to complete several online assessments. This will include a personality and cognitive assessment that we ask you to complete prior to scheduling your interview. It is important you complete the Outmatch assessment within five days of receiving the invitation. commitment.

Then passing the online assessment they will schedule an interview at Frontier headquarters in Denver CO with their pilot recruiting team. Interviews will be conducted person in Denver and will require a full day commitment. Once we agree on the date of the interview, they will send you an official invitation to help you plan accordingly. Successful candidates will go into their pilot pool and be eligible for a future class date.

Frontier is hiring Australian but must be located in the USA for the interview.

peterpicklepeper 28th Mar 2022 01:27

Best company
 
Whom to apply to which regional or carrier
i have the hours coming up at end of year and am working as a instructor
I hold a 737 type which I got in 2012 in Vegas on my Aussie license I really am not sure whom to apply and work for any help would be great
regards Pete

havick 28th Mar 2022 05:46


Originally Posted by DropYourSocks (Post 11205360)
It took a long time, but as promised for the last 2 years, here is Frontier taking E3s. Have at it!! I'm also accepting beers from all the naysayers :ok:


https://www.airlineapps.com/jobs/det...ficer-E-3-Visa

I’ll jump in on your round of beers owed.

bafanguy 28th Mar 2022 10:01


Originally Posted by peterpicklepeper (Post 11206649)
Whom to apply to which regional or carrier
i have the hours coming up at end of year and am working as a instructor
I hold a 737 type which I got in 2012 in Vegas on my Aussie license I really am not sure whom to apply and work for any help would be great
regards Pete

pp,

See post # 1839 in this thread for a rundown on the carriers taking people straight off the boat with no FAA license and then providing one. Seems you can now add Breeze to that list based on their latest posting re E3 applicants.

Apparently, if you get much above the regional tier, they are looking for E3s with the FAA license and already here. Good luck.

umop apisdn 28th Mar 2022 17:06


Originally Posted by peterpicklepeper (Post 11206649)
Whom to apply to which regional or carrier
i have the hours coming up at end of year and am working as a instructor
I hold a 737 type which I got in 2012 in Vegas on my Aussie license I really am not sure whom to apply and work for any help would be great
regards Pete

You'll in all likelihood have to join a regional, get your ATP out of them and then bounce. I'm not sure how transferring a type rating from CASA to FAA goes. A ten year old type rating is probably going to be pretty useless to you unless you're current on type.


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