Thanks for that great reply. The naysayers on here saying don’t go can stay and watch aviation here sink lower into the sewer. Hope to fly with you soon

Australian pilots ability to fly in the states on a E3 visa is seen by other nationalities as unfair . Only Australians at this stage can get an E3 . Who knows what it’s future is but if it was available to everyone there would be such a rush with experienced pilots from all over the globe most Aussies would not be competitive.

Why do you think Australian pilots would not be competitive? Genuine question, not trying to start a riot.

Being an Aussie, as has been mentioned a few posts above, we are extremely anal with procedures/communications/checks. I stand that we have an excellent safety record because of it. Would it be regarded as the opposite from your position/country?

Cheers

Which other nationalities see it as unfair? Australia and the US are quite close- aligned in fact and with trade arrangements.

Agree , Australia and the states are close , not unlike US and U.K. but Brits don’t get E3 . Europe with NATO ? Free trade agreements ? Lots of countries work closely with the states, with military and trade but to my knowledge no one else gets a chance at a E3 visa .
Im smart enough to not get into a debate with you Gnads , my point was this E3 is a bit of a gift in my opinion . If I was young and just starting out I’d go for it . See another part of the world , Australia will always be there . The Aussie passport , the gift that keeps on giving .
All in my opinion only
I’m out !

The E3 visa agreement was reached fair and square with the USA as part of our bilateral free trade deal and is mutually beneficial. If your own government was too lax to seek out such a treaty for you then tough. As far as other nations' pilots being better qualified…perhaps in transport jet hours, otherwise not really.

Hearing that a LOT Staffypilot. Same with their training and checking attitude. Would be refreshing. 19 years at same company here and still treated like a rabid dog.

AA and United offering +14% and +17% respectively, yet you have white ants at the QF group telling you a further 2 years x 0%, then 2% thereafter "is not a bad deal" or "we'll get em' on the next one".

Leave while you can. Opportunity doesn't last forever.

Haha so true.

Who gives a fat rats ar$e what the rest of the world thinks. Australia has stood beside the US through thick and thin, the only country to have fought in every war that the US has. I don't care to hear your politics or your ignorant anti everything US. You continue to **** every pilot generation coming behind you, but worse, you whinge and complain endlessly. As my Dad used to say 'The Continual F@cking Whinge' The worst whingers are the ones that benefited from the 'A Scale'

You are at risk of becoming the south pacific ignorants, the very thing you accuse the Americans of.

How long do E3 visas last for? Finding mixed answers via google.

Are they expected to be perpetual whilst things are ok in USA? I expect for those younger in age will look at getting a green card to live their permanently?

2 years and can be renewed forever, provided they need you. Is what one recruiter said to me recently. Though they said after a 2 or 3 year period green card sponsorship is on the table so mightn't be an issue..

Thank you very much ZF. Appreciate your reply. Something to consider before making a life changing decision. Not an easy decision either in my circumstances.
Cheers

Atlas Down Under
 

Here comes Atlas doing roadshows at home too. Get after it you heathens.

https://www.eventcreate.com/e/atlasaustraliantour2022

Interview Prep
 

To follow on from above, this is all you need to prep for any interview in the US.
https://www.aviationinterviews.com/

I've used this site to prep for 3 interviews now, and it has always been more or less on the mark. A good deal for the $20 they ask. (I'm not affiliated with the above either).

No need to spend money on prep companies who may or may not sell you the best case scenario for you to base a massive life decision on. There are pitfalls to the E3, which have been covered ad nauseum on this thread. The airline of your choosing will get you squared away with the immigration stuff. There's enough folks over here willing to give you the real down low, you need only ask.

I’ve used this website for multiple interviews as well, absolutely fantastic and well worth the price.

....then all those who go for fast cash and promotion return to crew the next wholly-owned or contracted subsidiary and the cycle continues. Hopefully, those left secure quality T&Cs from 'Bravo Airlines' and Network up before the next subsidiary is bought and used against us again.

I’ve done both. Legacy Australian carrier and fast cash and promotion as you put it. Wish I had have done the fast cash and promotion and skipped the Legacy carrier part. Anyone whose motivated don’t look back and go for it! Broaden your aviation experience so you can honestly chuckle at the Oztronauts. Legacy carriers are risky.

Spoken with true experience of what is being discussed 🤦‍♂️

Well said mate. I’ve spent 23 years building it and be told that I wasn’t interacting enough at the lunchtime break was gutted. Sim, buttons exams all smoked. Not being woke enough and faking conversation with HR will do me.

I recall doing a Dash 8 Cobham interview and I was asked a dozen tech questions.
One of the questions involved going through all the gradients in different configurations (3.2%, 2.4% etc) and when I paused on an answer the interviewer went silent on me as though he had caught me out!!

Was like I was interviewing for a shuttle mission to the moon lol
Not once was I asked what I enjoyed doing etc

Those gradient type questions **** me to tears. Who gives a flying f**k. The aircraft is required to make those climbs for certification. We fly the metal according to SOPs and FCOM which then in turn will meet the requirements to achieve said gradients.

I couldnt have said better myself. Come to think if it Australia Aviation is like 1% of what were are actually seeing in the USA. Dont beat around the bush guys & gals.think outside Australia and you may not be disappointed.
ell of course if you have a family & wife working etc then thats another can of worm. Does get a bit tricky!!
Opportunities are knowing at our doorsteps, grab it with both hands and maybe legs too ;)

On the Cobham side, I had Interviewer texting mates to find out more about me while doing an Interview with me !! Go figure . I may end up flying 747 soon but In Australia I wont even get a look in, Go figure

MD

Overwhelmingly, the interview for an American airline is majority focussed on the "No D!ckhead Policy" Can I spend 4 days away with you and get the job done. They do expect effort in knowing some basic US airspace and procedures surrounding the interview pack they send you. When you learn the alternate requirements for FAA/US you will scratch your head and say "Is that it??"

You WILL NOT need to spend money on pinstripe prep (unless of course you are interviewing for the airline they are associated with). aviation interviews is the go.

Breeze
 

I received an offer with Breeze, I’m early 50’s and taking the family.
I am coming off a turboprop with no prior jet time. My interview went well, we talked about general stuff, what I enjoyed doing in my spare time, a few HR questions tell me about a time etc Very relaxed interview about 1 hour.
Are there any other Breeze crew if we can share emails please and keep in contact.

[email protected]
Regards Doug

I did the Cobham interview and I decided not to take the job. Horrible
see Hudson reply above

I hear you! Back in the mid/late 2000's I was interviewed by a Type -A personality egotistical Chief Pilot and a 767 check and training captain at Qantas Link (no HR) straight after completing the 747 sim assessment.

Whilst I was trying to figure out why there was no HR, I could not help but immediately feel like I was the underdog.

The tense environment was set and it was pretty much game over from the minute the interview had begun. Although I was trying to stay calm and answered all of the technical questions correctly with a level head, the CP would not give up on grilling me- 2 ltrs of sweat later, the CP leaned over towards me and with an aggressive tone asked me what is 2.5% (climb gradient at the MAP on the ILS chart) x 120kt of GS ?. (working out the single engine climb speed with 1 engine INOP.) whilst i was trying to figure out why he was being so hostile, (my positive frame of mind broken at this stage) all i could think about was (Sh*t I need a calculator) as i sat there frozen.. He then leaned closer to me with a more tense demeanour and said " you don't need a calculator to work it out!" "WHAT is 2.5 TIMES 120 ??" Although it took me about 1 min to work it out in my head, he sat back in his chair and with a slight grim on his face like i had been caught out. The interview ended there and the end result was that I did not get the job. I look back now and I cannot help to reflect how unnecessary and appalling that behaviour was.

Yes if married. It’s not the Atlas E3 specifically. Kids can work as well up to a specific age.

Kids cannot work. Only your spouse can.

Thats currently right, from November there are changes that spouse’s and your kids can get a job. I looked into this and it appears correct. But like everything until you are there be careful.

Atlas Contract
 

Since there's so much interest in Atlas, I thought some here might appreciate seeing what's in their CBA.

https://wp.iap2750.org/resources/

Straight from their union website.

No unemployed pilots left in Australia perhaps. They have already left.

Notquiteanoob
 

Mate can you clear your inbox I’m trying to send you a message.

These roadshows seem to be skipping Perth.. there’s a HUGE portion of pilots working on very substandard EAs (Network, Alliance/bravo, skippers,etc…) in Perth who’d likely be interested. Perhaps those on the ground over there should Point that out to your recruiters.

Was at the Melbourne roadshow. Perth pilots came over. They found that not enough to warrant them flying 5 personnel over their. So clearly not enough interest from WA

West Australians don't leave West Australia. It's precisely why they continue accepting subpar conditions as long as they're home every night under the safe rule of Mark.

I reckon They’re ignoring a couple hundred of potential applicants.

Many of these pilots probably don’t have staff travel, that’s IF they could even justify affording the trip! Even if they could, at this time of year everything is pretty chockers so staff travel is unreliable and the available full fare tickets are even more costly… of course only a handful went over. That’d be far more than I would have expected.

Maybe they actually read the CBA? Personally I'm struggling to see how $95 an hour (or even $133 for a second year FO) is better than working for Network or Alliance. At only 64 hours guaranteed a month, and anything over that at the same crappy $95 an hour, maybe it's just me, my calculator might be broken.

staff travel aside, not 1 of the WA were airline or even close. Mostly charter.

And their not ignoring anyone. If you really wanted the job you would get over to the east. If you want to spend every night at home well that’s your choice. Spirit put it out their, only a few took the bait. Typical WA mentality of you come to us.