What does the GLT refueller say about how things are going??

What happened to the TL refueller

Anyone know how the loads are going?

Be nice for it to work out.

fluctuating im hearing

They start a new contract with a contracting firm in the new year between GLT and SYD.. good on em ! Hiring more crew from Skytrans, flight attendants and MX crew so far. Tamworth start in Jan then Narabri in March all aligned with contracts.. I heard they lost their major underwriter contract on Roma due to a project cancellation out there, thats why they didn't start, not enough local trafffic to support it. ... RPT FIFO, thats how its going, less money for the mining firm and less risk for the operator...

Narrabri in March eh?
 

So no requirement now to screen 20 tonne RPT? Awesome. I can see quite a few ports lining up for that exemption. Lol

Why not look North?
 

BNE-CNJ or WEI is a decent sector length. Tooling around with Tamworth and Narrabri doesnt make sense.
Even if they were bona fide markets they are not jet sectors, DOCs wont even be met with what the market are prepared to pay.

There's your answer Justa Dash
 

and yes your right, the 8000 odd people of the district certainly wouldn't support it stand alone... Jet VS turbo prop is no debate here when the client pays for the whole / majority of the aircraft

Where are they going wrong
Trying to deal with Tamworth Council for a start.Return flight to Bris-Vagas due to depart around 1845hrs, but wait secuirity knock off at 1700hrs so " you and your passengers will have to pay for the overtime"

Overtime has to be paid
 

Qantaslink pay all the security at Tamworth.Security is under a Contract and staff and rosters are arranged 12 months ahead to cover Qantaslinks hours operation. If another operator operates inside those hours the charge is spread between them and the price comes down. If you operate outside those hours,you pay,otherwise QLink is subsidising Jetgo's security fees. How hard is it to grasp something so basic? Security fees cover actual costs,they arent there for the airports benefit.

Jetgo aircraft is 1kg too heavy. If under 20,000kgs MTOW rather than 20,000 kgs, it would not require security.


Can they get an exemption ?


NAA council is apparently trying to get them one.


Where did this magic figure come from ?


A 50 seater Dash 8 is under 20,000kgs. A 50 seater F50 is over 20,000kgs.

is exemption for NAA confirmed ?


If so F50's should get the exemption as well. Think most F50's are aeround 20,800 kgs MTOW.


Surely the public servants can't have made that quick a decision. Normally a minor decision like that would take 1 or 2 years !!!


Seriously, their has to be a line in the sand if we must have this so called security, but surely it should be based on number of seats in the aircraft & not MTOW.


& then you have the crazy situation at DBO where QF has to pay cos 74 seaters, but why does Rex pay with Saab's ?


Surely they could say to DBO get stuffed, we're not paying & that would be the end of it.


Why do Rex pay ? Seems like they've been conned at Rex.




At ZQN last year & think I saw pax getting on an ATR without any security, while all jet pax had to go thru security.




Why are Kiwis seemingly smarter, when we all know they are not.

Rex pays at Dubbo
 

For the same reason Brindy paid at Tamworth during the operational hours for security.Because an airport can't be forced to have 2 operating areas if they don't already exist, or if there is no business case to do so. Rex lost that one in court recently but kept it Very quiet.

all it takes to have 2 operating areas is a very simple partition, which could be very inexpensive. DBO has given in to the big red rat.

All it takes!
 

What happens to the baggage? Unscreened bags and screened bags cannot co-exist out the back- not allowed. Second baggage line require.
What happens at the foot of the exit ramp if it all leads onto a secure apron? Who pays to have a security guard guarantee that the 2 groups never come into contact on the apron?
What happens if you haven't got another apron anywhere near the terminal that can accommodate a SAAB, or if you have, it hasn't got the required Code 3 apron lighting?, or a decent Code 3 taxiway for access.
How much money does an airport have to spend to allow a second tier airline to go in competition with the incumbents.
At what point does that sort of investment become a virtual subsidy for the newstart?
How much should a regional airport invest in infrastructure for an airline that may go bust in month?
This bloke already did 700k damage to one of the ports in question.
All it takes my arse...............

Not a cent at anywhere Jetgo has actually said they are going.

Not a cent at Tamworth anyway,
 

Apart from some linemarking and a check in desk. But Narrabri will be a little different. I wish them luck with getting the rules relaxed as they should be, but can't see it happening. And Armidale wants a Brisbane service but has no security capability.
And my previous post was in relation to operating unscreened aircraft alongside screened flights.
Security Regs. S$#t them. They are an unnecessary cost for regional routes, especially now cockpit doors are hardened.
I wish Jetgo all the best because I know the northern NSW region wants direct access to Brisbane and they are the only airline talking now Skytrans has apparently put up the shutters.
Another airport in the region I talk to frequently wants a YSSY service back but there are simply no carriers left in that level of the market. They have a nice runway and a nice terminal and a nice town and they are absolutely screwed by the state of the airline industry. Very Sad.

Unfortunately another "airline" that is destined to fail. Carrying less that 10 PAX per sector is just not economical. I applaud them for trying but as many before have experienced they just can't make it work.

Fieldmouse , the Kiwis manage to do it. It's not difficult !!!!

The Kiwi's manage to do it.
 

Absolutely they do. And from my understanding that is because the NZ Federal Government undertakes all screening and security operations and shares costs around the network.
They do not expect individual airports to individually find solutions and be responsible for all infrastructure, equipment and staffing costs.
All the Government did here was make a lot of regionals spend a lot of money on terminal modifications and equipment purchases and then have to enter staffing and maintenance contracts with the providers.


This money has to come from somewhere, and it's the passenger who pays.


Meanwhile pax want to pay the same amount for a ticket they were paying in 1980.

I don't know how any regional makes money these days. But 'link seem to.