Very disappointing to hear this industrial dispute is dragging on for so long, although it doesn't surprise me.

How many pilots are now on the seniority list?

As of 18.1.16 total combined 185, spread is about 50/50

Older air head,

Any news on how many Q400 guys got made redundant?

got you sighted just waiting on confirmation from up North.

Court case moved only one cog but at least it moved.

Judge has directed the release of the mediation results to both parties for their consideration and to reply to the court as to why that process failed. Date TBA.

I see that PX scored well in the 2016 Industry Engagement survey as seen on PPRuNe. Haha. :D

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...-survey-2.html

The Management team should have tried just that little bit harder...I am thinking that only a smidgen more effort would have been needed and they would have achieved a Management target of ZERO.

Man, I feel for you guys.

Hey Wantoks, any update on the April 7 hearings ?

It saddens me to hear news of more redundancies, my thoughts are with those affected and their families.

High 6 read post #233

Still waiting to hear when the next hearing will be.

Next court hearing is 5th May. PX is required to advise why they have not reinstated a national Captain who was terminated for refusal to sign the 2015 contract plus further legal argument.

And

Leaked from 4th floor, PX will be removing the A scale from the next contract that is due at the end of this year - All pilots will be on b scale only!

Always been a very anti pilot company
 

I joined PX in the good old days of DC3's, F27 and B707 aircraft and did some 24 years with them finishing up as Fleet Caotain C & T but ........ even back then the management were embittered towards pilots! We had a strong Union but had to fight and kick every inch of the way.

With a massively beneficial exchange rate up to 1.6 AUD per Kina we were on a good wicket plus a hundred bucks a night overnight allowance.

The proposed B salaries will see another eflux of pilots and then the ever present risk of pushing national pilots into positions they are neither qualified nor experienced enough to fill! (I) had to contend with this every day but we had some top notch local pilots who were a credit to the country ............ the push for early promotion was always there, very common in most countries similar to PNG.

I really do worry that this 43 year old death free airline will consequently have a significant lowering of standards as experienced pilots pull the pin and look for greener pastures!

New low for PX, even by their own standards!

Just been advised the recently "retrenched" Q400 Captain returned to POM on company ticket to complete extensive paperwork required on company separation, but when attempting to get Hotel and Allowance Chit gets told that management have declared he is not to be given same nor is he to be given a company supplied Airline ticket back home to Australia!

He had to organise his own accommodation and return travel!

Further adding to the woes is the report that the Kina could drop as low as 0.24 - 0.29 against the $A. Ouch.

http://www.businessadvantagepng.com/...-say-analysts/

Redundancies
 

Don't feel sorry for any one made redundant from that third world excuse for an airline. All the guys who were made redundant last time went on to get much better jobs. You guys are the lucky ones. I feel sorry for the ones who are still stuck there.

And anyone thinking if going there - forget it! Even as a last resort I would not recommend it. If you have any self respect at all don't go.

I am qualified to say these things - I escaped from ANG after a very long sentence in that sespit, Port Morseby - worst place in the world bar none!

There is a reason most of the engineers just get on a flight and leave when it's time to call it quits - even trying to do the right thing causes hassle.

Very sad days as we are seeing the begining of the end for a 40 year old Airline.

With the amount of recruiting that's going on in Australia and Asia at the moment, I find it very different to understand why some long timers are still sticking around. You won't be remembered by anyone when you leave - not even your mates!!!!

With the valve of the Kina falling, you guys are are going to end up earning hardly anything......

I agree Duck Pilot......to a point but there are other factors to take into consideration presently.
The court case is finally getting under way and perhaps people are waiting to see if a positive result translates into positive change?
There appears to be change happening at the very top of PX management and again people may want to wait and see if this translates in to improvements for the pilots.
Finally there is a tsunami of trouble brewing within the government which again could effect this State Owned Enterprise.
Of course nothing may go the way of the pilots in any tangible way and then I agree, an exodus will occur (again).
The next six months will be very interesting.

I wouldn't have any faith in the PNG judicial system, just look at what's going on right now!

Expats trying to win a industrial dispute in PNG?? To many white cans brothers!!!!!

I think the reason that long serving expats are staying is called Stockholm Syndrome, they have fallen in love with their captor.

B767 inbound. :hmm:

DP
Getting a new job for the guys takes time, not like you walk into Woolies and grab one of the shelf..

And plenty jobs in AUS??

767's in for back to back C check, hence wet lease. Although I had heard a rumour they were going to get a third 767 on line. Some smartish person prob realised they didn't have the work........or maybe the spare change.