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Australopithecus 24th Sep 2014 23:15

Toronto Vancouver
Honolulu Aukland Christchurch Wellington
Noumea Nadi
Hobart Melbourne Sydney Brisbane Townsville Cairns Darwin Alice Springs Perth
Adelaide Canberra
Bali Jakarta
Singapore
KL?
Port Moresby
Taiwan
Hong Kong
Manila
Ho Chi Minh?
Its been everywhere, man.

capt.cynical 24th Sep 2014 23:29

Lots of charters to numerous cities in Japan late 80's early 90's. Hiroshima is one I remember.

ACMS 25th Sep 2014 00:54

Narita
Kansai

itsnotthatbloodyhard 25th Sep 2014 01:29

Sapporo
Fukuoka
Bombay
Tahiti
Seoul
Penang (tsunami relief)
Launceston (a few freighters at least, don't know if there was any LST RPT)

Chocks Away 25th Sep 2014 01:44

tdracer :ok: yes it's interesting when you throw the figures around, the 767 really has a market area Boeing can't replace (for those who can't afford a new 787).
The attempts at expanding and re-engining the 737NG to replace the aging 757's are falling short, though they're trying to jam more seats in and are brewing over Lion Air's request for an expandable centre take blader, to give a 10+ hour endurance... but this model can grow no further towards 767 territory.
You've mentioned upgrading the 767 bunsen-burners and weight being the issue, so really the next step of efficiency is putting winglets on, if not already fitted. ANZ first quoted fuel savings of 6-8% on longer sectors but in the end turned out to be 13-15%. A great outcome but a huge outlay (if you paid for it).
So it becomes a tough market for those who can't afford the B787.

Australopithecus 25th Sep 2014 06:57

There isn't a replacement other than the too-wide 787. The A321 has been suggested, but single aisle high capacity seems to be unsuitable.

At today's interest rates if you cannot afford the 787 you are not for real, hence the large order book.

There may yet be a robust market for re-built 767s if the dire predictions of 787 failure are to be believed.:8

SOPS 25th Sep 2014 07:35

In a way it is sad to see the list of all the places the 767 went to, it just highlights where Qantas does not go to anymore.

Bankstown 25th Sep 2014 08:55

Beijing
Shanghai
Honiara
Doha
and KL via Jakarta or Singapore Austral.
Oh, and Victorville.

Ken Borough 25th Sep 2014 11:35

Has everyone forgotten about Papeete and Nagoya?

Brutus 25th Sep 2014 11:48

Al Udeid
Dubai
Tindal
Woomera
Christmas Island

ACMS 25th Sep 2014 12:55

Wow, reading this brings home how small the QF network has become.

Crying shame......

swh 25th Sep 2014 13:41

tdracer, not sure what you mean about the 767 weight. According to the Boeing airport planning documents the 787-8 is a lot heaver than a 767-300ER, an extra two thousand pounds on the wings would be insignificant. (260,000 lb vs 195,000 lb) ?

http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com...ps/767sec2.pdf
http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com.../acaps/787.pdf

Care to clarify ?

Ken Borough 25th Sep 2014 14:29

If one includes charters, you could certainly add Wuhan and Chongqing in the PRC. I think too you could include Yangon and maybe another place in Myanmar (Mandalay ??) that escapes me. I think you could also include Delhi and Hanoi.

tdracer 25th Sep 2014 14:59


Care to clarify ?
Don't understand what the 787 has to do with it, but for the tanker mission, the underwing weight of the GEnx-2B (compared to the CF6) is up well over a ton (actually closer to two tons). That would have pushed the empty weight of the 767 tanker up by close to 4 tons. Unless there was a corresponding increase in the max takeoff weights (which is its own can of worms), that would mean less fuel upload. For the 'standard' tanker mission, the reduced fuel burn of the new engine wasn't enough to offset the reduced upload, resulting in a net reduction in the tanker offload capability (based on the USAF provided mission profiles). Lots of expense for no extra capability :(

Remember, the 767 MTOW at EIS was 320,000 lbs. - over 40 tons less than today's airplane, and the engine options were in the 48k-50k thrust range. If there was a suitable new 50k engine available it might make a viable 757 replacement.

arkmark 25th Sep 2014 15:31

I still miss the F27, F28, and the 727. Not to mention that the MD80 was simply the nicest aeroplane that I ever had the pleasure to PAX on.

The 767 like each of these has sadly had it's day.

As a PAX I could tell from the "old aeroplane smell" as soon as I walked through that heavily greased antiquated door that I was on an old QF 767.

With the dumbing down of engineering skill I feel safer on newer aircraft, even if it is a 737 I pretty much don't mind as long as it's relatively new.

Until one day they put the engines back down the back where they should be, I guess I just have to get used to what is left :(

RENURPP 25th Sep 2014 22:21


Until one day they put the engines back down the back where they should be, I guess I just have to get used to what is left
There is still one type left with "the engines down the back where they should be" :O

PW1830 25th Sep 2014 23:49

Add Larnaca, Tel Aviv, Nairobi, Seychelles, Broome & possibly Mauritius

triadic 26th Sep 2014 01:30

AO 767's
 
The 5 767's that flew in AO colours had one of the highest daily utilisation totals about at the time. It was not uncommon for the aircraft to log 16 or 17 hours per 24 hour day. The aircraft were quite "mothered" in that they were (except for one) back in CNS every day and the deferred snag list was very small as the same engineers attended to the same aircraft every day.
The 767 was a good aircraft for its day and this type of operation. Sad to see them (and AO) go.
AO aircraft went to:
Cairns
Darwin
Gold Coast
Melbourne
Perth
Sydney
Hong Kong
Denpasar, Bali
Fukuoka
Nagoya
Osaka
Sapporo
Kota Kinabalu
Singapore

Plus a number of Captains choice charters into Asia and China.
:{:{

Ken Borough 26th Sep 2014 05:27


AO 767's
The 5 767's that flew in AO colours had one of the highest daily utilisation totals about at the time. It was not uncommon for the aircraft to log 16 or 17 hours per 24 hour day.
That's quite amazing? Who designed and did their scheduling? Qantas or AO?

C441 26th Sep 2014 22:57

The 767 Japanese charter destinations in the early 90's included Aomori, Niigata, Okayama, Tokushima, Fukushima, Sendai, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Sapporo and possibly a couple of others that escape my memory. (Excuse the errant spelling if necessary)

Included in that was a sector from Okayama to Jakarta that included a dog-strike to the nose-wheel on landing. Nice!

2233gav 26th Sep 2014 23:26

Last QF 767 passenger revenue flights December 27, 2014
 
Over the last few weeks have noticed that the last 76s are getting well used on the East coast. Is this because the company wants to flog them to death before they finally go?

Tankengine 27th Sep 2014 00:58

They always get well used on the East Coast, why would now be any different?:rolleyes:

Far Canard 2nd Oct 2014 00:19

What are the plans for the 767 Simulator?

noip 2nd Oct 2014 00:22

Big sheets of paper with lines and squiggles on them, but that's not important right now.

k grind 2nd Oct 2014 00:27

^^^^Hahaha

JetRacer 2nd Oct 2014 05:28


Big sheets of paper with lines and squiggles on them, but that's not important right now.
Very quick there noip!

Best flying movie ever! :ok:

TwoFiftyBelowTen 26th Dec 2014 11:06

Farewell, 76es
 
Good luck to those fortunate enough to fly the B767s for QF tomorrow, last day in service.
So taken for granted in recent years, but great aircraft to have been a pax in.
Don't suppose we'll ever see 2-3-2 config in Y class again

Keg 26th Dec 2014 21:41

Captain Mike Galvin and F/O Kirrily Zupp have the honour. Two other gun F/Os in Joe Reitemann and Rohan Flick in the jump seats to record it for posterity. Hope Mike doesn't dump it on as the last one although that would probably be a typically 767 and fitting way to finish

Looks like 16R for the spotters. I hope they do a go around and a scenic tour of Sydney whilst they're at it. In fact, can someone pass onto ATC a specific request for that? :ok: :E

Someone linked this video to my Facebook feed. Not sure where it came from! :} :ok:



Capt Fathom 26th Dec 2014 22:49


Hope Mike doesn't dump it on ... a typically 767 and fitting way to finish
Surely after 29 years someone knows how to land it! :E

Capn Bloggs 26th Dec 2014 22:56

Nice vid. Good to see hands on throttles and stick! :}

What's the flight number of the last flight?

Alien Role 26th Dec 2014 23:13

An aircraft loved by the passengers, the Cabin Crew and especially the Flight Crew; like that other magnificent airframe, the B-727, another great Boeing off the books !
Role on.....

tipsy2 26th Dec 2014 23:28


What's the flight number of the last flight?
QANTAS 767


Tipsy
:ok:

Willie Nelson 26th Dec 2014 23:40

Great safety record too, Well done ladies and Gentlemen.

tery84vx 26th Dec 2014 23:58

what time is the last flight out of melbourne?

missy 27th Dec 2014 00:33

Loved the video. Is that what the stopbar system looks like!! Nice examples of threat and error management, RWY 07 being used for arrivals, glad that Emirates turned from TWY Golf to TWY Alpha.

IsDon 27th Dec 2014 02:59

Quite a nice farewell to OGT here:

http://youtu.be/SOX2TS75HrA

:sad:

Shot Nancy 27th Dec 2014 03:27

Great vid.

tipsy2 27th Dec 2014 03:33


what time is the last flight out of melbourne?

1700 Summer time.

Tipsy

belowMDA 27th Dec 2014 05:03

Wouldn't be surprised to see Air NZ grab your sim. Either that or just keep using it in situ but for more of their requirements.

itsnotthatbloodyhard 27th Dec 2014 05:14


Hope Mike doesn't dump it on
Nah. I'm sure that like all good 767 captains, he'll have offered the sector to the FO. :}


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