Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
Reload this Page >

Last QF 767 passenger revenue flights December 27, 2014

Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific

Last QF 767 passenger revenue flights December 27, 2014

Old 17th Sep 2014, 02:27
  #1 (permalink)  
swh

Eidolon
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Some hole
Posts: 1,920
Last QF 767 passenger revenue flights December 27, 2014

The last flights of the 767 in passenger revenue service is now schedule for December 27, this year.

December 27
SYD-BNE
QF508 SYD0805 0835BNE 763
QF501 BNE0500 0735SYD 763
QF517 BNE0925 1200SYD 763

December 27
SYD-MEL
QF421 SYD0930 1105MEL 763
QF425 SYD1030 1205MEL 763
QF435 SYD1300 1435MEL 763
QF443 SYD1500 1635MEL 763
QF447 SYD1600 1735MEL 763

QF408 MEL0700 0825SYD 763
QF430 MEL1200 1325SYD 763
QF434 MEL1300 1425SYD 763
QF446 MEL1600 1725SYD 763
QF458 MEL1800 1925SYD 763

Always preferred flying on these over the 737 as a pax.
swh is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 04:42
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: PNG
Posts: 7
Yes, even if it was just for the overhead baggage space, they will be missed domestically.
Lost in Places is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 05:34
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: sydney
Posts: 821
Qantas are giving up a huge domestic commercial advantage over Virgin getting rid of the 767. Great pax appeal, dual isle, large overhead bins. Very silly move IMO.
dragon man is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 05:41
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: The Land of OZ
Posts: 18
New Tourist Attraction???

With them all parked up in Alice Springs maybe QF should market them as a new tourist attraction for the red centre...
737 guru is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 05:48
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Wherever I can log on.
Posts: 1,688
Yes, even if it was just for the overhead baggage space, they will be missed domestically.
There's more advantages than the overhead baggage space.

The thing that passengers hate most about flying is "The Dreaded Middle Seat". Every 6 abreast row on a B737 or A320 has two middle seats (B & E) whereas, every 7 abreast row on the B767 has only one middle seat so that means a lot less unhappy passengers.

The B763 is a lot better in turbulence than a B737.

The windows in the B767 are at a more comfortable height to view out than the B737.

The B767 cruises slightly faster and has less internal noise than a B737.
Going Boeing is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 07:17
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Looking for the bridge of trust
Posts: 117
And when fitted with winglets they're pretty good on gas. Just ask Air NZ and they seem to be doing something right.
The Bungeyed Bandit is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 09:56
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: South of YSSY
Age: 68
Posts: 436
The 767 has been a true workhorse for Qantas, but they are all getting old and there are better airframes which can do the same job for less fuel-burn, and less maintenance, and make less noise whilst doing it as well. Still, Qantas will be changed forever once they are all gone.

Not having followed the recent history of Qantas lately, from what I read I am assuming they will be replaced by 737s, which would presumably be NG models.

However, I can't help wondering what the state of play for Qantas would be today if their fleet had been reconfigured a few years ago to a mix of 777-200LR, 777-300ER, replacement of the 767s by 787s, and a forward program to replace the NG 737s with 737 8 Max and 737 9 Max. Probably worth keeping the relatively few A380s for a bit longer, but definitely dispose of the 747-400s...the industry has changed and what worked ten years ago may not work well enough today. The A330s came very cheaply, so work 'em hard for a few more years then sell them off or part them out. Still, such a fleet for Qantas is only a pipe-dream, sadly.
criticalmass is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 16:55
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: overthere
Posts: 2,868
I believe Pontius got his Pilate licence in one of these. Hope they go to a good home.
The Don
donpizmeov is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 21:57
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Elsewhere
Posts: 334
The 767 has been a true workhorse for Qantas, but they are all getting old and there are better airframes which can do the same job for less fuel-burn, and less maintenance, and make less noise whilst doing it as well.
There may be, but unfortunately Qantas isn't getting any.
itsnotthatbloodyhard is offline  
Old 17th Sep 2014, 23:26
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Weltschmerz-By-The-Sea, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 665
The 767 is still the sweet spot for size, wingspan and utility. Like its sister 757, the '67 can make money on a 1:20 sector or a 9 hour sector. Yes, it has outdated technology, aerodynamics and structural weight. The current replacement aircraft are not the droids you are looking for however. Maybe the 787, but it seems to be more akin to the 330: ideal for a two sector day, not eight.

All of that aside, if you were to re-invent the 767 for Australian east coast service it would look just like the Bullet Train.

Last edited by Australopithecus; 17th Sep 2014 at 23:39.
Australopithecus is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2014, 00:10
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Outofoz
Posts: 657
But in 737 land,,,,,,,,Apparently if you squeeze the rear dunny, offer two wafer biscuits per passenger so as to cut down rear galley space, you can fit another 6 seats in, (bean counters think almost 767 numbers)
Don't mention the extra 15 mins you require for everyone to try a store their legal baggage allowance, And for god's sake, lets not mention the freight!

The smartest guys in the room. Don't worry, they will tell you!
hotnhigh is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2014, 10:57
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 50
With them all parked up in Alice Springs maybe QF should market them as a new tourist attraction for the red centre...
Not to be picky, but there isn't even one QF 767 parked in Alice Springs. There are 3 Tiger Airbuses there though, and 1 737 from Our Airline (i think).
Spelunker is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2014, 11:03
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 57
What is happening to the Tech Crews?
Lucky Six is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2014, 11:37
  #14 (permalink)  
Keg

Nunc est bibendum
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 5,176
fish

It depends on their seniority. Some Captains are off to the A380 a couple to the 744, more to the A330, a handful to the 737 in Adelaide, and the majority are becoming F/Os on the A380 with a couple becoming F/Os on the 744 (their choice rather than the A380).

The F/Os are in similar circumstances. Not sure if any of them are off to the A380 as F/Os though. I don't think any current 767 F/O has seniority for the A380 as an F/O though I could be wrong. A few to the A330 because they have the seniority- some of them to different bases than currently, some to the 737. Majority into the backseat of the A380 with a couple electing to go to the 744 as S/Os instead of the A380.
Keg is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2014, 12:08
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Under the Engine Cowls
Posts: 17
I'd be checking Flight Radar at around 0830 tomorrow morning Spelunker
I hear there are some Big Jets bound for Alice Airport.
jet_mechanic is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2014, 01:01
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 212
The 767 is still the sweet spot for size, wingspan and utility. Like its sister 757, the '67 can make money on a 1:20 sector or a 9 hour sector. Yes, it has outdated technology, aerodynamics and structural weight. The current replacement aircraft are not the droids you are looking for however. Maybe the 787, but it seems to be more akin to the 330: ideal for a two sector day, not eight.
The closest aircraft to the 767/757 with modern technology that can handle multiple daily cycles and fit into standard domestic bays is the A321. QF have the ability to get plenty A321NEOs with their large JQ Airbus order, some of which are probably no longer required. Maybe we will see these replacing the 738s on MEL-SYD-BNE in the next few years.
1A_Please is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2014, 01:41
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 549
I hear there are some Big Jets bound for Alice Airport.
Well, maybe one......OGR.

Next after that is OGN, about 28th or 29th Sept.

C441 is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2014, 02:13
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Inside their OODA loop
Posts: 242
But in 737 land,,,,,,,,Apparently if you squeeze the rear dunny, offer two wafer biscuits per passenger so as to cut down rear galley space, you can fit another 6 seats in, (bean counters think almost 767 numbers)
Don't mention the extra 15 mins you require for everyone to try a store their legal baggage allowance, And for god's sake, lets not mention the freight!

The smartest guys in the room. Don't worry, they will tell you!
You forgot target ZERO & 35 minute turnarounds plus the extra seats, oh yes, that's going to work! /s.

Domestic is heading towards a Low Cost Carrier dressed up in premium drag.
FYSTI is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2014, 06:54
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 159
Last QF 767 passenger revenue flights December 27, 2014

Heading towards? There is nothing premium about QF domestic. A cookie and a coke? A cold breakfast on a BN - DN flight?
Joker89 is offline  
Old 20th Sep 2014, 22:09
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 53
Posts: 1,914
Don't forget the B767 caused a nice little recruiting drive for pilots as well.
Much movement in the industry, was created as everyone moved from instructing to charter jobs.
Tonight on 60 mins a story on a B767 being ferried to the boneyard in the states.
Stationair8 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.