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CamelSquadron 25th Feb 2014 11:32

Mstr Caution ,time off for sickies is recorded separately from time off for work injuries.

You could be right though, the comparison between Jetstar and Qantas would look even worse if you included time off for workplace injuries.

What The 25th Feb 2014 12:18


Is it true that Qantas long haul pilots get up to 25 days sick leave per year? Surely not? That would mean they get more sick leave than the rest of the population get in holidays every year.
No. Your attempts to smear Qantas pilots are becoming desperate. Loser.

SOPS 25th Feb 2014 15:05

I don't know who Camel is, but he seems to be in the same ilk, that during that year, had one of our American "freinds" in a magazine getting a haircut in flight, to display how easy the job was. I could start, but I will be banned.

neville_nobody 26th Feb 2014 01:59


Is it true that Qantas long haul pilots get up to 25 days sick leave per year? Surely not? That would mean they get more sick leave than the rest of the population get in holidays every year.
Understand that you are talking about a operational job not a office job. You cannot apply your 9-5 air conditioned, ergonomic chair, toilet breaks whenever, food and water on tap to a operational job.

The QF pay structure and the way sick leave works is nothing like you are suggesting.

As I said before going sick can result in a lower pay at the end of the year.

You are obviously yet another desk jockey with NFI about aviation operations.

DirectAnywhere 26th Feb 2014 03:31

Sick leave is a bit of a furphy for pilots anyway.

Pilots are legally obliged to determine that they are fit to fly prior to commencing a duty. If they are not fit to fly they are subsequently required to withhold themselves from duty. If a pilot were to use more than 25 days sick leave to ensure their compliance with the CARs, and had appropriate documentary evidence, it would be an interesting exercise to see whether the requirements of the determination or the CARs took precedence.

Trent 972 26th Feb 2014 03:35

CamelSquadron said

time off for sickies is recorded separately from time off for work injuries
After all the years I've been here, I'd have to ring my Fleet Manager to find that out, and even then I doubt if he'd know, without contacting HR.
CamelSquadron = TROLL

Though he is still giving me a little girlie giggle to see how desperate these trolls are to portray LH pilots badly.
G. Thomas just gives me the sh!ts. BullSh!tting arsewipe of a 'self proclaimed expert'.

Mstr Caution 26th Feb 2014 04:25

I'll have to ask my manager how many days per year off I'm entitled to for work related lost time injuries.

I can't find it in my FWD or Admin manual.

Until such time I'll have to refer to my Sick Leave entitlements.

TIMA9X 26th Feb 2014 04:40


CamelSquadron = TROLL
Yep:ok: a great diversion thread, less said the better... other stuff going on, Joyce would be grateful for anyone who wants to play alone with the management anti staff theme song.. just a thought..:)

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CamelSquadron 26th Feb 2014 11:53

Well good luck for tomorrow. At an individual level these are sad circumstances.

Angle of Attack 26th Feb 2014 12:03

Thanks Camel,
I just called in sick for tomorrow and am having a BBQ and a piss up, so wont need any luck, I'll be smashed by 12pm! :ok:

frangatang 27th Feb 2014 11:45

If you want sickies try the ferking fire services in australia, unbelievable...britain in the seventies!

Sqwark2000 27th Feb 2014 17:18

Could it possibly have something to do with how many sick days are allowed for in the different CEA's?

I'm guessing QF might have 10 and def J* would only have 5, so it's people using their entitlements as provided....

My company allows 90days continuous, resettable to 0 when you return to work. No one takes advantage of it, we still need to provide medical certificates for 3 days or more, but it's helped a few guys who've had medical issues that have taken a few months to resolve. If it takes more than 3mths to sort out, an admin day is rostered to reset the 90day clock....

Mr Angry from Purley 27th Feb 2014 17:40

Sick leave isn't perhaps the corrrect wording - its absent from work due to sickness, nothing to do with leave!
Presume most were off sick when you were whooping the Brits at Cricket - Barstewards :D

Sunfish 27th Feb 2014 18:33

Camel Squadron may be safely ignored, he is not a pilot and knows nothing about the aviation industry.

GoDirect 27th Feb 2014 18:49

Summed up perfectly by Direct Anywhere's Post #46. What people outside of aviation do not understand is that you cannot fly if you have a cold/URTI due to ears blocking/possible damage to eardrums etc. At your office desk, no problem, and most people will push on through. Go flying and possibly perforate an eardrum or two, and the person will be off for a very long time compared to the time required to come right. There is also the lesser known possibility of causing brain damage from flying with a cold and ending up being permanently out of the job. In flying, outside of injuries, the common cold/URTI's would account for the majority of sick leave taken. The other "gotcha" occurs from the environment itself - breathing the recirculated air all day lomg from hundreds of passengers, a lot of whom are carrying the "bugs" adds insult to injury and contributes to a greater incidence of picking up these infections in the work environment. I would suspect that crew on solely freight operations wouldn't develop as many colds etc during the course of a year as what pilots carrying passengers pick up.

Tankengine 27th Feb 2014 20:41

In addition re URTIs, our company INSISTS on us not going to work as we may infect an entire crew who then may need to go sick overseas, cancelling flights and causing millions of dollar losses!:ugh:

Australopithecus 27th Feb 2014 21:28

Camel Squadron is the kind of bloke who would stop at a traffic accident. In hopes of lifting a victim's wallet.


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