Everyone's getting a little excited here, and not in a good way!

The imminent demise of QF International or otherwise shouldn't be entertaining to anyone. Remember there are a hell of a lot of good honest workers at QF, that like many here don't like or support the madness that is AJ and Co's " management" either and are very distressed at the current situation and saddened by what QF has become. We are all just innocent victims and collateral damage in effect from the madness that is AJ his board of buffoons.

And for all those predicting an extinct QF international, what about the Pacific, where QF isn't disadvantaged by not being a hub? LAX, DFW, Santiago what about JNB? The Arab and Asian carriers with the much cheaper cost bases don't fly these or have the traffic rights.
London and Europe I can sort of understand the logic to, sadly though.

The The, many LH people would chase heavy metal OS, rather than do the brain numbing SH stuff. SH only suits some, more often than not, for family reasons. LH is often the same, getting away from situations that don't suit, like the last three wives/husbands, chasing you for money! Don't panic yet, its still only a rumour, not verified, but one to think about. And don't forget the three amigo's, they are sitting over there on the hill, just watching, just waiting!!!!! Anything could happen.

Full circle. Dixon/Singo now seen as white knights?? You have got to be kidding!! Iconic Qantas now the plaything of a couple of publicans, and people think thats a better outcome?? Its 0730 in SYD and I slept all night but where is my emergency Vodka?? Not sure I will be able to pass my next DAMP course!

If that's the case and LHR goes then they'll need to re-deploy those aircraft, I'd say QF107 to go daily 380 and then more 400's to the desert.

Named 'Thomas' and 'Geoffrey', I believe.

It's started already our taxes are paying 'JokeStar' to stay at AV..........heard it on the radio this morning.............bloody amazing!!!:ugh:


Wmk2

Here you go Wally..

JQ Avalon deal

Well if Qantas give up LHR to Emirates, lets hope there is something in return for Qantas for giving Emirates those valuable LHR slots!
It will free up Two 380s, so it would be good to see them redeployed on a daily Perth Dubai rotation, one could never understand why Qantas did not retain a presence to Europe from Perth in the original deal!
Conversely they could use them to replace existing 747 route, and also cancel 2 of the reminding 380s on order?

Ida Down,

If you think SH is brain numbing, then what the hell do you think of 15hrs across the Pacific? A complete lobotomy if you ask me!

Agreed. That is all.

It's not a LH/SH thing, it's what gives you the most days off. They are both boring as bat ****e at times. :ok:

Transition, did both. I was a happy SH bloke, but forced into LH after dispute. They can keep it. But spent many years listening to why some preferred one to the other.( I must have a sympathetic face) And it would appear to me, that more often than not, is was family reasons or personal circumstances that made the decision. More so than money. The SH blokes complained about being bored witless, the LH blokes complained about being buggered. In other words, it was a normal conversation, you get on any flight deck, at any given time.

So how do Emirates manage a lower cost base (if that's the difference) than Qantas?

They use some similar aircraft so fuel costs must be similar.

How much do their wages costs vary?

According to the Fleet Manager, they were cancelled quite some time ago.

We must never forget:

'The mistakes of management always appear on the bottom line'.

We must never forget, that Dixon and Gregg are not and will never be the 'white knights' that QANTAS and all you current staff need.

??????? What do Alan wants??????

Valid question cheer up.
I think that is the crux of the problem. I have no data to confirm or deny but the levels of ancillary staff per airframe would be a very enlightening figure to compare across many airlines and rate against qf numbers.
As would the average salary of ancillary staff numbers across other airlines vs qf.

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Alan wants what's good for Alan :ok: