They will need crew rest beyond 2015...everyone will. That's the law. What are they thinking...Besides full load 5 hours endurance...that will work. I guess Ansett wasn't a fluke after all!

SOPS

Load Alleviation Function

Can you elaborate on this?

SOPS.

From the 787 FCOM, Flight Controls:

Gust Suppression.
Vertical gust suppression enhances ride quality in the presence of vertical gusts and turbulence. It utilizes symmetric deflection of the flaperons and elevators to alleviate gust acceleration. This function is active only with the autopilot engaged in Altitude Hold or VNAV level flight modes.
Lateral gust suppression improves ride quality and can reduce pilot work load on approach by automatic application of discrete yaw commands in response to lateral gusts and turbulence.
Operation of vertical and lateral gust suppression does not result in control wheel, control column, or rudder pedal movement.

Roger that, thanks.

Airbus has had load alleviation for donkeys years. Boeing finally catching up.:E

Boeing had GUST RESPONSE SUPPRESSION systems fitted to 747-200 aircraft I flew in Kuwait.

The system was fitted to aircraft around 1975.

Do not remember any Airbus aircraft around then.

And gust suppresion was fitted to clunkers in the QF fleet.

So as the jetstar 330s go to qantas and the 767s retired, are the 767 pilots doing a straight swap over to the 330s? (Apologies if this has been covered previously)

Ah, no. Some captains managed to get across to the 330 and some ended up demoted to the 737. 1 F/O out of 20 got an A330 F/O position while the other F/Os are being demoted to A380 S/O.

Problem being the 747 F/Os will run out of leave to assign in twelve months and the company plans to reduce them to the A330 as F/Os then. If they trained the 767 F/Os onto the 330 then they would only be displaced by the 747 F/Os in twelve months.

So while QF mainline shrinks due to abject neglect from management, and all resources are pumped into the amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing orange cancer, the demotions will continue. Just a matter of time until the junior A380/330 S/Os start being made redundant and find themselves on the dole queue.

Short answer - no.

Pammy.

Its actually the Qantas A330's on loan to JQ that are returning to Qantas.

Due to the Qantas purchased B787's being deployed at Jetstar replacing the loaned Qantas A330's.

As the Qantas A330's return to Qantas, it allows the retirement of the Qantas 767.

This enables the Qantas guys and girls with 20 plus years widebody Boeing time to be redeployed & retrained to Airbus some electing to so voluntarily some forced.

Meanwhile the Airbus experienced guys and girls at Jetstar will be retrained to fly the Boeing 787.

But all will work out ok. Cause if Qantas order the B787 to be delivered to mainline in 2016. The guys redeployed to the Airbus A380 as Second Officers will be able to return to the B787 as FO's.

That's assuming that QF crew operate the B787's for QF.

Lots can change in 3 years... :E:hmm:

Amaaaaaaaazing

Yes, nice to see Jeremy in the news .. was my instructor at YMMB back in the late 80's.

Why is the 787 painted a different colour silver?

The way mainline is going they will announce they are closing the doors any day soon, and that ammmmmmaaaaazing business is taking over all the flying. It's really very very sad, and I sit and wonder every day, how it's been allowed to happen and why no one is asking any questions.

Derfield said :
This is a special JQ low cost paint shop feature. You'll notice that each and every A330 and A320 comes painted in a new and unique shade of silver. I imagine it will cost a lot to get Boeing to come up with a different silver each time one of these pops off the end of the construction line. :E

Tech crew rest
 

So if tech crew rest isn't fitted then european flights can be ruled out? Surely you wouldn't allow a curtained off premium economy seat for 'rest' on a 10+hr sector?

the 330s have a curtained off business seat.

whether thats sufficient for wsss to europe i dont know