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Capt Kremin 24th Sep 2013 09:19

And there is the Jetstar paradigm writ large....

OneDotLow 24th Sep 2013 09:25

Waren9 said :

anyone offering odds on how long before they are reconfigured on pax feedback?
We are talking about the same Jetstar here, right?

I also heard the pylon version of the above. The aircraft is sold with pylons to suit thrust rating, in order to keep the weight down on this overweight beast.

Mstr Caution 24th Sep 2013 10:24

335 seats & lower thrust engines is plausible if the intent is to keep them on the Donestic services.

That seating density might be bearable on SYD-OOL for someone only looking to spend $30 bucks on a airfare.

waren9 24th Sep 2013 10:39


We are talking about the same Jetstar here, right?
why not? reclining seats were reinstalled after pax feedback. no?

OneDotLow 24th Sep 2013 11:15

Maybe at Ansett, but this is Jetstar we are talking about. Im not including the crew when I say this, but they (management) couldn't give two hoots about the customer's needs/wants/desires/feedback. So long as they lure customers in with a 'cheap' airfare, who cares what happens next. For now there are enough first timers out there to keep them going. I'm sure they even have a few regulars.

whatever6719 24th Sep 2013 13:10

That's not the first time I've heard about the thing being used for domestic flights. A friend of mine told me the other day that a JQ colleague mentioned that these are primarily domestic configured aircraft.
I know they intend on doing some proving flights within Australia before they supposedly go international but that config is diabolical!
The interesting thing is, if they are going to be domestic aircraft, then that means they will have a "business class" product - domestically!!!!

waren9 24th Sep 2013 13:45


The interesting thing is, if they are going to be domestic aircraft, then that means they will have a "business class" product - domestically!!!!
interesting indeed.

Capt Kremin 25th Sep 2013 04:28

The domestic flights are only to gain experience. They won't last long.

1a sound asleep 25th Sep 2013 05:28

I would be more worried about whos jobs the 110 A320s (that are on order) are going to take

Normasars 25th Sep 2013 08:46

I will wager that Network end up with at least a couple of handfuls of them.

RPT AOC well on track and significant 'Bus and heavy metal time guys working behind the scenes getting this show on the road.

Watch this space as I have repeated now for quite a while.

waren9 25th Sep 2013 08:54


I would be more worried about whos jobs the 110 A320s (that are on order) are going to take
replacements. unless you find a delivery schedule that points otherwise

Wedcue 27th Sep 2013 07:21

Normasars: same as me mate. It's so obvious.

TBM-Legend 30th Sep 2013 12:00

Quote from Flightglobal today:


Low-cost carrier Norwegian is wet-leasing an Airbus A340 after deciding to take its second Boeing 787 out of service to settle recent operational difficulties.

Norwegian took delivery of its first 787 in June to operate on its new long-haul services, later adding a second of the type. But it has since faced several instances of disruption to the carrier's long-haul services which, at times, have taken both of its 787s out of service, forcing it to lease capacity from other operators.
Wonder what this means to other operators present and immediate future?

wild goose 3rd Oct 2013 12:58

It would appear that VH-VKA has been delivered and is on its way.

PPRuNeUser0184 3rd Oct 2013 17:59

What a witty, articulate and intelligent post regitaekilthgiwt. Well done indeed.

PPRuNeUser0198 4th Oct 2013 03:15

ABT reports the aircraft lands in Melbourne on Wednesday at 1305, with a media event following shortly after.

CEO's and media on-board from Seattle.

Oxidant 4th Oct 2013 05:04


ABT reports the aircraft lands in Melbourne on Wednesday at 1305, with a media event following shortly after.

CEO's and media on-board from Seattle
Wonder what they will think of the new "sardine" class seating?

PPRuNeUser0198 4th Oct 2013 06:07

It is the same recaro seat being used on the newer QF330's, so it would be the same. Unless pitch is less? Does it have the sliding seat-pan?

spotfx 4th Oct 2013 15:34

787 Economics
 


Apparently the 787 with a two class 260 seat config is no more economical
than those tired old 767/300 aircraft.
I'm sure the j* accountants will cook
the books to make the plastic fantastic viable at any cost to mainline
Do you have a source for this? The internal figures I've seen for another major airline operating the 787 show (when they aren't grounded:)) the aircraft to be incredibly economical. Assuming no major teething problems, the aircraft should be a great addition to the Qantas Group - whichever subsidiary they end up in.

stainedpantystealer 5th Oct 2013 00:47

Delivery flight details
 
B787 VH-VKA, operated as flight JQ7878, is scheduled to arrive MEL after an overnight in HNL on October 9 at 1305L.


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