Qantas Sydney Redundancies Called Off... What about Avalon??
 

All seems to have gone quiet now that Sydney is safe. What about our brothers at Avalon? Not even an information meeting from any union.

ALAEA is taking Forstaff to FWA on an unfair dismissal basis for those who have been outed.

The solution that worked for Syd would not work at Avalon because Qantas are not feeding any work post a forced leave program.

Unless they cancelled there membership when made CR as it was unlikely they would ever work in the industry again which they did well before the UFD notice came out so does that not mean they are not represented in the FWA case at all ?

If a member of ours is made redundant they no longer pay fees. The fees they did pay covers the period that they were employed and anything adverse that happened to them during that period including being made redundant.

I've insructed Brad to contact all of our members who were tapped by Forstaff so we can at least try to get their jobs back. I signed a cost agreement yesterday with our law firm and we will be spending at least $20,000 on it plus supplying our own supporting solicitor.

Thanks for sorting that out as quite a few had been told that was not the case .

Info Meeting for Avalon
 

When are information/progress meetings about FWA, LOFO ect planned for Avalon?

I'm not sure if any new information could be presented at meetings. I think you guys want a meeting though. I will email Brad Stewart and get him to plan some.

Doesn't seem to be any progress on any of the above issues .

Maybe you should have attended the meeting.

Meetings are for members only, how could he attend?

Avalon CR,

After a lavish Qantas dinner in Sydney Last night for all the sycophants , hangers on and paid ambassadors people given CR at Avalon in what has to be the final insult have received a letter from Qantas thanking them for there hard work and telling them what a hard decision it has been to make them redundant.

Sad but true. Whilst some throw money around on lavish parties and overdone hype, other people's lives are being destroyed in misdirected penny pinching.

Seems like a company completely insensitive to the families involved whilst publicly and carelessly throwing money around entertaining those that they consider important enough.

Maybe they could have at least invited some of those who are now redundant, if they had enough nerve to that is.

The Qantas hangar party last week was not for sycophants, it was a cold hard lobbying exercise by the company. The guest list contained at least the policy chief for Tony Abbot, the head of an indigenous NGO and numerous other movers and shakers on both sides of politics. Would we also be right in thinking that a certain union leader would have been attending on the arm of the beautiful Olivia?

It should be understood that these are Qantas real "customer base" - not the poor schmuck general public that the company has been screwing over for years as well as its own employees.

If anyone can get and publish the guest list I think it would be an eye opener.

Who cares????

It could be that this is an example of the thread's core topic.
Who cares? I do!
LD

This is what Forstaff stated So much for that Hearing reports that these CR,s have happened today .

Alaea can do nothing now.

The sad part is Forstaff employees have no option but out of door,Qantas has an option to relocate.

Avalon buoyed by sale of Tiger. FFS ! 2 Days ago 40 people lost there jobs now there Buoyed what a load of old Sh&^e .:mad::mad::mad:

Avalon buoyed by sale of Tiger | Geelong, VIC, Australia

As sad as it is to see people out of work, it makes NO sense for a company to have 3 different engineering bases across the country. It economic stupidity. Besides that, Avalon was setup and run by a bunch of ass kissing yes men that had their incompetence hidden by the workmanship of the LAME's and AME's there.

it was only meant to be an overflow facility for Sydney HM,stands to reason for closure when there is no overflow out of Sydney any longer.What will poor WM do for work now ?grub

Actually it was supposed to be a short term re-config facility only.

SIA ,MAS,Cathay,Lufthansa,BA all has several bases to do maintenance,but QF do not know how to manage it.

With all the sackings at MEL & AVV Qantas still cannot get the numbers required at BNE Readvertised again .

Why would anyone move there? Base maintenance only pays 7% shift loading and Line face redundancies in the not too distant future. Once the volunteers leave that will only leave compulsory redundancies.

Exactly no ones going to move there for what is a short term but Qantas just don't get it .

Just Read the May E-Torque apparently nothing happened at Avalon since the Feb Edition.

No news about EBA talks with Forstaff? I think the current EA expires very soon.

Avalon may expire well before any EBA Talks .

Brisbane Heavy Training ALAEA Notice 13/2013
 

At Brisbane :

"Representatives are concerned that LAMEs holding only legacy fleet licences face the possibility of a compulsory redundancy in the near future"

What about training at Avalon?

Are ALAEA Representatives not so concerned about Avalon members working for Forstaff?

How is the ALAEA fighting for our future?

Concerned Member

Qantas Spending On Maintenance Consolidation

If I were ANYONE working at Avalon, I would be applying for anything and everything and getting out.. The agenda from management does not have you guys in it. They have flagged this since mid last year. It won't be a shock when they close AVV down, either lap up the redundancy payment when it finally comes or jump off the sinking ship.

There will be no more training, there is no more extra work, there is nothing to fight for except entitlements which Qantas has a good track record in honoring.

It's pessimistic but its true.

I don't know, why don't you ask them. They are the guys you work with everyday.

The "ALAEA" is not an organization that has hundreds of staff sitting in an office somewhere, doing whatever you need. It's all the members in your workplace, assisted by a few locally elected Reps. Sure, there are a few Industrial Officers who will provide support, but they respond to issues, ideas, events co-ordinated by the local reps.

If you don't like the response occurring to what Qantas / WM are doing, speak to the rep on-site, or better still, get involved yourself. Whingeing and moaning on PPRuNe won't help your cause much!

Concerns have already been expressed to local Reps and I believe they have been passed on at executive meetings.

I know the Fed Sec monitors Pprune, and have got results eg site meetings from expressing conserns in this forum.

I don't have numbers of members at Avalon, but believe it to be one of biggest facilities for ALAEA membership.

It would be a shame to those few sitting in the ALAEA office to loose Avalon members.

cvrurass, The ALAEA notice came about due to an EOI for an A330 course for Brisbane Base Maintenance. Had the management not put the word out that a course was to be run, there would probably have not been concern from legacy only type holders within the membership in Brisbane and therefore, no ALAEA notice.

I am sure that the same situation applies to Avalon. The difference being, management have not expressed the possibility of a type course in the immedeate future. This is a separate issue.

The proposals in the notice, if sucessful, would have benefits in all areas.

The airline makes the decision whether they will supply training or not. As a union the best we can do is make sure the training is handed out fairly by asking those who have current quals to withold their application for the slots.

Management aren't offering training at Avalon. I'll repeat that, MANAGEMENT aren't offering training at Avalon. It is not your union that makes this decision.

Fighting for your future? Apart from the court cases that are currently running and constant meetings to try and convince Qantas to give Avalon more work (which they continue to refuse because they want you closed down). The press to highlight that they are sending more work offshore such as the Jetconnect 737 work.....

Yes, I remember now. We had 100,000 pamphlets printed last year to hand out at train stations to support HM in this country. We put out a notice seeking volunteers to help hand them out. Apart from our Reps, not one member responded and offered to dedicate one hour of his/her time to help out. There is only so much we can do mate in the court rooms and press, without the support of members we really are pushing ****e up hill.

Jetconnect 737 work
 

Not only is Qantas sending 737 heavy maintenance work to NZ. They have sent a check coordinator and a planner from Avalon as well as some Syd staff to help NZ take Avalon work.

Steve makes a very salient point.

I'll bet Jetconnict aren't paying for this. It will all go on the Qantas HM tab.

cvrurass all you can hope for now is a quick ending.