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empire4 24th Apr 2013 14:10

As sad as it is to see people out of work, it makes NO sense for a company to have 3 different engineering bases across the country. It economic stupidity. Besides that, Avalon was setup and run by a bunch of ass kissing yes men that had their incompetence hidden by the workmanship of the LAME's and AME's there.

qf 1 24th Apr 2013 19:05

it was only meant to be an overflow facility for Sydney HM,stands to reason for closure when there is no overflow out of Sydney any longer.What will poor WM do for work now ?grub

Silverado 25th Apr 2013 13:12

Actually it was supposed to be a short term re-config facility only.

Bagus 26th Apr 2013 05:49

SIA ,MAS,Cathay,Lufthansa,BA all has several bases to do maintenance,but QF do not know how to manage it.

Jethro Gibbs 5th May 2013 08:45

With all the sackings at MEL & AVV Qantas still cannot get the numbers required at BNE Readvertised again .

lamem 5th May 2013 09:06

Why would anyone move there? Base maintenance only pays 7% shift loading and Line face redundancies in the not too distant future. Once the volunteers leave that will only leave compulsory redundancies.

Jethro Gibbs 5th May 2013 10:00



Why would anyone move there?
Exactly no ones going to move there for what is a short term but Qantas just don't get it .

Jethro Gibbs 14th May 2013 10:25

Just Read the May E-Torque apparently nothing happened at Avalon since the Feb Edition.

cvrurass 16th May 2013 22:05

No news about EBA talks with Forstaff? I think the current EA expires very soon.

Jethro Gibbs 16th May 2013 23:50

Avalon may expire well before any EBA Talks .

cvrurass 17th May 2013 22:56

Brisbane Heavy Training ALAEA Notice 13/2013
 
At Brisbane :

"Representatives are concerned that LAMEs holding only legacy fleet licences face the possibility of a compulsory redundancy in the near future"

What about training at Avalon?

Are ALAEA Representatives not so concerned about Avalon members working for Forstaff?

How is the ALAEA fighting for our future?

Concerned Member

600ft-lb 18th May 2013 13:59

Qantas Spending On Maintenance Consolidation


Qantas will spend $30 million on expanding its heavy maintenance base in Brisbane as it prepares for an eventual consolidation of its aircraft engineering facilities in Australia from two to one.
The airline has previously flagged that it plans to eventually close a heavy maintenance base at Avalon Airport near Geelong in Victoria, and shift the work to its eight-year-old Brisbane facility.
If I were ANYONE working at Avalon, I would be applying for anything and everything and getting out.. The agenda from management does not have you guys in it. They have flagged this since mid last year. It won't be a shock when they close AVV down, either lap up the redundancy payment when it finally comes or jump off the sinking ship.

There will be no more training, there is no more extra work, there is nothing to fight for except entitlements which Qantas has a good track record in honoring.

It's pessimistic but its true.

Millet Fanger 18th May 2013 21:13


Are ALAEA Representatives not so concerned about Avalon members working for Forstaff?
I don't know, why don't you ask them. They are the guys you work with everyday.

The "ALAEA" is not an organization that has hundreds of staff sitting in an office somewhere, doing whatever you need. It's all the members in your workplace, assisted by a few locally elected Reps. Sure, there are a few Industrial Officers who will provide support, but they respond to issues, ideas, events co-ordinated by the local reps.

If you don't like the response occurring to what Qantas / WM are doing, speak to the rep on-site, or better still, get involved yourself. Whingeing and moaning on PPRuNe won't help your cause much!

cvrurass 18th May 2013 23:01

Concerns have already been expressed to local Reps and I believe they have been passed on at executive meetings.

I know the Fed Sec monitors Pprune, and have got results eg site meetings from expressing conserns in this forum.

I don't have numbers of members at Avalon, but believe it to be one of biggest facilities for ALAEA membership.

It would be a shame to those few sitting in the ALAEA office to loose Avalon members.

BrissySparkyCoit 19th May 2013 03:26


Are ALAEA Representatives not so concerned about Avalon members working for Forstaff?
cvrurass, The ALAEA notice came about due to an EOI for an A330 course for Brisbane Base Maintenance. Had the management not put the word out that a course was to be run, there would probably have not been concern from legacy only type holders within the membership in Brisbane and therefore, no ALAEA notice.

I am sure that the same situation applies to Avalon. The difference being, management have not expressed the possibility of a type course in the immedeate future. This is a separate issue.

The proposals in the notice, if sucessful, would have benefits in all areas.

ALAEA Fed Sec 19th May 2013 22:23


What about training at Avalon?

Are ALAEA Representatives not so concerned about Avalon members working for Forstaff?

How is the ALAEA fighting for our future?

The airline makes the decision whether they will supply training or not. As a union the best we can do is make sure the training is handed out fairly by asking those who have current quals to withold their application for the slots.

Management aren't offering training at Avalon. I'll repeat that, MANAGEMENT aren't offering training at Avalon. It is not your union that makes this decision.

Fighting for your future? Apart from the court cases that are currently running and constant meetings to try and convince Qantas to give Avalon more work (which they continue to refuse because they want you closed down). The press to highlight that they are sending more work offshore such as the Jetconnect 737 work.....

Yes, I remember now. We had 100,000 pamphlets printed last year to hand out at train stations to support HM in this country. We put out a notice seeking volunteers to help hand them out. Apart from our Reps, not one member responded and offered to dedicate one hour of his/her time to help out. There is only so much we can do mate in the court rooms and press, without the support of members we really are pushing ****e up hill.

cvrurass 20th May 2013 00:44

Jetconnect 737 work
 
Not only is Qantas sending 737 heavy maintenance work to NZ. They have sent a check coordinator and a planner from Avalon as well as some Syd staff to help NZ take Avalon work.

Redstone 20th May 2013 00:53

Steve makes a very salient point.

ALAEA Fed Sec 20th May 2013 01:39


Not only is Qantas sending 737 heavy maintenance work to NZ. They have sent a check coordinator and a planner from Avalon as well as some Syd staff to help NZ take Avalon work.

I'll bet Jetconnict aren't paying for this. It will all go on the Qantas HM tab.

Jethro Gibbs 20th May 2013 06:49

cvrurass all you can hope for now is a quick ending.


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