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QF94 1st May 2012 14:54


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Nil infrastructure investment. You're being completely unfair G1.

Q management, after shutting down H245 eight years ago, are refurbishing the shed. Makes sense to me.
Only to be knocked down in the next few years to make way for new terminals under the new airport plan. A real brainiac of an idea that one!

SOPS 1st May 2012 16:23

I really dont want this to happpen, but I think they are trying really hard to get rid of QANTAS. I still do understand why, and at a time it was an airline that I so so wanted to work for.....I am very sad..................

UPPERLOBE 1st May 2012 22:05

@QF94...

Mate sorry to be the cynic, but the days of charismatic politicians who actually do what the public wants are over. All we have now are two teams one red and one blue who bow and scrape to the whim of the media, the rich and of course their own self interest in looking out for themselves once their day in the sun is over.

Forget the green team they will be back in their box after the landslide.

TheWholeEnchilada 1st May 2012 23:02


I really dont want this to happpen, but I think they are trying really hard to get rid of QANTAS. I still do understand why,
Qantas is not an airline, it is a hedge fund. The APA bid never went away, it just morphed into a capital lite LBO due to the GFC and the drying up of credit. What you are watching is a more sophisticated camouflage for the old asset strip.

Read the book " " by Thomas Petzinger Jr - (a used copy is less than US$1+postage), documenting the US deregulation experience. A small group of executives and private equity investors walked away as billionaires, while the rest of industry ended up destitute. This book provides many templates for seizing control, and destroying airlines for personal profit.

The cash flows from the international & domestic operation are being used to construct a stable of new airlines in jurisdictions with far less transparency and control for the shareholder. There are a myriad of opportunities for "third parties" to provide services to this stable of airlines. In effect, these airlines can be reduced to clients of these service providers. Who will own those "third party" providers?

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another superlame 2nd May 2012 10:22

Another nail in the coffin is the fact that QF have sent OQD to Manila for a reconfig plus wing inspections and repairs plus lightning strike repairs. Plus the IFE WiFi Satcom upgrade.
All this with no Qantas LAMEs to over see the operation. No Airbus field support engineers.
All this to a facility that has not yet seen an A380 in anger.
It can end 2 ways, in tears for all the QF managers trying to save a peso, who the have to explain why the aircraft is parked in Sydney for a week on its return

or

It is a blinding success, it does 2 flights before things go bad.

What a way to treat your "flagship". No supervision of work carried out by a MRO keen on a profit.

Having said all that, the new cabin interior manager in Sydney who has made lots of friends of late is going to be there for the end of the check to make sure the cabin is up to scratch.
I sure hope is tank training is also up to date.

QF94 2nd May 2012 13:24

@another superlame,


Another nail in the coffin is the fact that QF have sent OQD to Manila for a reconfig plus wing inspections and repairs plus lightning strike repairs. Plus the IFE WiFi Satcom upgrade.
All this with no Qantas LAMEs to over see the operation. No Airbus field support engineers.
All this to a facility that has not yet seen an A380 in anger.
It can end 2 ways, in tears for all the QF managers trying to save a peso, who the have to explain why the aircraft is parked in Sydney for a week on its return
You forget that these new generation aircraft don't require the maintenance the older aircraft once needed. Not in Australia anyway.

I hope they fix the RAT on that aircraft while it's up there, if it hasn't been fixed yet. It takes a bit of time to blow dry the RAT every transit.

The coffin for QANTAS is pretty well nailed shut. It's just waiting for the eulogy before being lowered into the grave. The eulogy, for those close to QANTAS would be:

Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow - Walking Beside Us...Always

QANTAS, shared our lives for many years and we will always hold its memory as a keepsake in our heart.

As we look back at the yesterdays that we shared with you - we remember with gratitude; we remember with a saddened yet happy heart.

We will always look back on our time with you and we will always think of you with love, friendship, courage and admiration!

And today as we sit in the silence, we feel you still, ever near.

As we sit here, we miss you - but not with a burdened heart and a bowed head.

We miss you for the laughter we shared; we miss you for friendships forged; we miss you in the defiant moments when you stood your ground - resolute in your faith and purpose...and we miss you, each of us in our own personal ways, for all the special intangible ways that you touched our hearts - ways that cannot be defined by words.

Memories of you mold easily to our hearts - familiar, comforting...part of us!

QANTAS - you have taken the last step on your journey home and although you may be gone...you will never be forgotten.

In the tomorrows still to come you will walk beside us in the sunshine and the rain; we will speak your name often...and we will close our eyes and smile...because you lived!

ConcernedLAME 6th May 2012 11:05

Has it been confirmed no QF LAMES are to be present during the A380 reconfig in MNL ...

Redstone 6th May 2012 19:40

Yes, 100%.

ConcernedLAME 6th May 2012 23:41

When will QF learn.....good luck to you guys in Base and cabin interior in Syd to pick up the pieces when it comes back ...Be sure to document all anomalies through the correct channels ...

QF94 7th May 2012 04:06

@ ConcernedLame


When will QF learn.....good luck to you guys in Base and cabin interior in Syd to pick up the pieces when it comes back ...Be sure to document all anomalies through the correct channels ...
QF management will NEVER learn as they're lucky to have two brain cells between them to collide and cause a spark. The level of arrogance to say they have wronged or they'll learn from past mistakes prevents this from happening.

Yes, the pieces will be left to be picked up when the aircraft comes back. As has been the case since aircraft were maintained outside of QANTAS.

ALAEA Fed Sec 7th May 2012 04:13


Yes, the pieces will be left to be picked up when the aircraft comes back. As has been the case since aircraft were maintained outside of QANTAS.

and the job numbers will go down to a department in Australia making them look inefficient. The real cost of the reconfig never recorded against the Asian facility.

QF94 7th May 2012 04:18


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Yes, the pieces will be left to be picked up when the aircraft comes back. As has been the case since aircraft were maintained outside of QANTAS.
and the job numbers will go down to a department in Australia making them look inefficient. The real cost of the reconfig never recorded against the Asian facility.
This is the whole story of how International operations are made to look inefficient. All costs placed against it, made to look like it's in a sorry state (sorrier than it really is) and then reduce it to next to nothing so as to make JQ look good and take over QF's routes, when in fact it's QF carrying the load of the overseas facilities and JQ.

emudodo 7th May 2012 07:00

Where do the "Rocket Scientist" think they are heading
 
For God's sake when are these idiots going to wake up? If as we all suspect mainline is making money, but by using what can only be called"False Accounting" it is holding afloat the orange cancer and being made to look as though it is bleeding heavily. Can they not see that by degrading the mainline operation to the point that it in fact does not make money, THEN THEIR ORANGE LOVECHILD WILL ALSO WITHER AND DIE AS THERE WON'T BE ANYTHIG TO KEEP IT AFLOAT. Jeez it ain't rocket science.

And as a side note I would almost bet part of my anatomy on the Domestic operation now being claimed to be underperforming (Guess What it's EBA time again) well according to those who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing, that is.

I'm past caring but I do have two lads working there and I fear for their future.

The whole industry started down the slippery slide when these accounto/business types got into the operation with no background in Aviation, no Avgas/Avtur in their veins and only focussed on their KPI's and short term bonus driven mantra's, wormed their way to the top and proved almost exclusively that they didn't have a clue.
Amazingly they almost all jump ship just prior to it going down and pop up in another operator they see as ripe for the picking. eg see how many ex AN people are now in JQ or QF happly heading in the well worn, well known path....some people just never learn.

It grieves me to see where the industry is at the moment as when I started in the industry in 1966 things looked so good...how they have changed, for the worse:ugh:

I just hope that the incompetence at the upper echelons is recognized and cleaned out while there is still time to right the ship and get it back to it's glory days..........Rant Over

QF94 7th May 2012 07:04

Can't agree enough with you emu!

Short_Circuit 8th May 2012 08:28

Making QF international appear to loose money whilst propping up Jet* and outsourced maintenance is a tool to see QF share price remain low and Jet* look like a good buy,
Once sold, Jet* not propped up by QF Jet* fails.
The board invent some meaningless "change" in QF international and it is suddenly making a profit, so the board earn yet another bonus and cheap share options now worth a motsa. And got rid of those pesky engineers to boot..
:=

Alien Role 8th May 2012 10:38

Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow....
 
QF 94 - You have encaptured the sentiments and distressed feelings of 16,000 former Ansett employees..........

Role on..

QF94 8th May 2012 13:00


QF 94 - You have encaptured the sentiments and distressed feelings of 16,000 former Ansett employees..........

Role on..
The day Ansett disappeared was a dark day in Australia's aviation history and should never have happened. Sure there were rivalries, but that's what made the Australian aviation industry what it was. Robust, competitive, and employees on each side had pride, loyalty and ownership of THEIR airline.

As much as it pains me to see it happening again at QANTAS, I believe there will be a fight to keep it going as long as possible, as there is a lot of pride still left in QANTAS employees including ex-Ansett people who don't want to be involved in round 2 of another airline going under, or struggling for an extended period of time because of a few rotten people that occupy the QF board.

Alien Role 8th May 2012 23:28

QF94 - hit the nail on the head, buddy !!

Role on...

hewlett 9th May 2012 22:21

Does anyone know what Aircraft Structural ContractorsPty Ltd are like to work for ? They recently had an ad for LAME / AME all trades for all a/c in QF fleet and then some. Director has some vague conx to QF.

Jethro Gibbs 10th May 2012 01:55

They are just collecting resumes for there files wont answer any questions my guess they have no real work anyway.
These joints are popping up everywhere usually run by one bloke operating out of his kitchen.


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