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QF94 20th May 2012 13:45


Quote does not include computers or phones. They may cost an extra $50k but knowing Qantas they would shop around and find them for $6m.
Hey, I'll do it at a great discount for $1m!

Ngineer 20th May 2012 21:28


Radio LAME's and Avionic LAME's sitting in the crew room etc are not efficient.
You mean B2 guys sitting in the smoko room watching B1 guys trying to do their work........ Well who's fault is that?

AWB_Clerk 21st May 2012 00:16


You mean B2 guys sitting in the smoko room watching B1 guys trying to do their work........ Well who's fault is that?
Possibly the people that poo-pooed the idea of composite crews?

AWBC

Ozcan 21st May 2012 00:45

Representing AMEs and LAMEs together is not a conflict of interest.
 
Sorry ALAEA Fed Sec, AME's will never trust the ALAEA to act in anyone's interest but LAME's. I don't recall you kicking up a stink when all of the Tech Officers from Aircraft Airworthiness were told their jobs would move to Sydney earlier this year. All the AME's would be for you would be headcount and dues! :mad:

blackhand 21st May 2012 01:32


You mean B2 guys sitting in the smoko room watching B1 guys trying to do their work........ Well who's fault is that?
The B2 work or the B1 work??
BH

Long Bay Mauler 21st May 2012 02:07

Its official- Tullamarine is gone.

Vale & Condolences to those in Heavy. Best of luck.

Transition Layer 21st May 2012 02:15

Released to the ASX this morning

Qantas to consolidate Heavy Maintenance Facilities

airsupport 21st May 2012 02:18

I know a Bloke who reduced the Maintenance/Servicing costs on his car by about 60% :ok: saved him a lot of money :ok: but now he is always complaining because it breaks down all the time and is a death trap. :(

At least he can (usually) pull over to the side of the road and wait for help, hard to do with an Aircraft at 30,000 feet. :(

Long Bay Mauler 21st May 2012 02:36

Just thinking that the timing is interesting about this announcement about Heavy,as it coincides exactly with Craig Thomson speaking in Parliament.

Guess which will have the greater front page coverage? And it probably won't be the poor Qantas workers,except maybe in Melbourne.

Motorola 21st May 2012 02:48

Why did the ALAEA sign an EA deal and not try for some job security at arbitration?

lamem 21st May 2012 02:55

R U 4 Real
 
One of the biggest points pushed by the ALAEA at the last EBA was for job security. The company would not even consider it. This is all part of a much bigger and longer term agenda. It does not matter what we give them they will always ask for more. My belief is that, at best, most of us in QF engineering have a maximum of 2 years left before we are put out the door.

Clipped 21st May 2012 03:03

Closing Tulla, will be as successful as the closing of H245.

A320skoda 21st May 2012 03:06

How many LAME's to loose there job's? How many LAME's in the country on 457 VISA's?

Hercfix 21st May 2012 03:09

There is about another 250 jobs to go over the next 12 months at Qantas Defence Services with the government grounding the C130H fleet. In total that's a lot of aircraft trades out of work in a small industry in Australia.

QF94 21st May 2012 03:12


There is about another 250 jobs to go over the next 12 months at Qantas Defence Services with the government grounding the C130H fleet. In total that's a lot of aircraft trades out of work in a small industry in Australia.
QDS to lose 250 and about 600 in Tulla. The government has grounded the C130's. They're donating them to the Indonesian Air Force! Work that one out!

QF94 21st May 2012 03:19

From the Press Release this morning.



“Qantas has invested heavily over the past 10 years in new aircraft that are more advanced, more efficient,

attractive to our customers and require less maintenance, less often. But we cannot take advantage of this new generation of aircraft if we continue to do heavy maintenance in the same way we did 10 years ago.

Last time I saw an A380 (yesterday) it had its cowls open and a plethera of engineers around it. This is ops normal for A380 Line Maintenence.

I feel for the guys in MEL as I did for those when SYD Heavy was shut down.

easily_confused 21st May 2012 03:23

A320 Skoda, are you saying the jobs that no one would take and were left for 457 visa holders are now good enough for you?

AWB_Clerk 21st May 2012 03:52


easily_confused: A320 Skoda, are you saying the jobs that no one would take and were left for 457 visa holders are now good enough for you?
A320Skoda has a point: There's no longer a skills shortage, is there? So the 457 visa scheme will need to be looked into at some point. Or would you like to continue it and create a further surplus of skilled workers that will have to fight for work that doesnt exist which will not be of any benefit to anyone?

AWBC

Lodown 21st May 2012 03:55

It took me 40 hours to get to Dallas 3 years ago with Qantas from a scheduled Brisbane-Los Angeles flight because of serviceability issues. That was the last time I flew Qantas internationally. Seems like I won't be coming back to Qantas anytime soon to get confronted with more delayed departures and missed connections. Oh well...

easily_confused 21st May 2012 03:56

I couldn't see a case for further 457 visas to be issued, but people will need to now accept lower wages as new ventures will not be as lucrative.


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