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Bear Grylls 2nd Nov 2011 10:27

Air Australia!
 
Fresh photo, hot off the press. The new Strategic branding, which is having its launch tomorrow.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2mra7ie.jpg

How long will this one last...

jas24zzk 2nd Nov 2011 10:37

This Help????


AFP: Budget 'Air Australia' to fly after Qantas chaos

Wizofoz 2nd Nov 2011 10:51

Wish them the best of luck, BUT......

Do we REALLY need ANOTHER LCC??

Lasiorhinus 2nd Nov 2011 10:55

New paint scheme?

I liked the old one...

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../9/0781903.jpg

Slippery_Pete 2nd Nov 2011 11:17

But Lasiorhinus, the most important question... does the Airbus have the signature matress down the back?

Xcel 3rd Nov 2011 01:57

Hahaha and the curtains slightly opened! :yuk:

TBM-Legend 3rd Nov 2011 02:14

....and they do their heavy maintenance overseas! Can't be Australian.....

bankrunner 3rd Nov 2011 03:43

Makes me think of Air America. Doubt the flying would be as interesting though :E

ANCDU 3rd Nov 2011 05:19

Crikey! Launching a "new" airline when one of the biggest price wars between airlines is about to start. Gutsy move.

Busboy92 3rd Nov 2011 07:13

Interesting....

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/australia-gets-a-new-budget-airline-20111103-1mwm5.html

1a sound asleep 3rd Nov 2011 07:41

The start-up again came under the spotlight this week after the release of accounts showing its losses widened from $2.1m in 2008-09 to:uhoh: $9.3m last financial year and that it was cashflow positive only because of a $6m loan from the charter business.

The accounts, which also identified an $11.4m net asset deficiency, were accompanied by an auditor's warning of "material uncertainty which may cast significant doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern".

| The Australian

YPJT 3rd Nov 2011 07:48

I wonder if Chuckie did a deal on the name rights?

1a sound asleep 3rd Nov 2011 07:49

There only hope is a buyout by somebody with more money

Artificial Horizon 3rd Nov 2011 07:50

Not gutsy, stupid. Why take a moderately well performing charter business and saddle that with a tiny 'low cost' start up in a market that is already saturated with airlines that have very very deep pockets.

sagan 3rd Nov 2011 08:25

New scheme keeps reminding me of the Woolworths logo.... Must buy spuds.

At least it is not red.

jas24zzk 3rd Nov 2011 09:04

Maybe they ARE being underwritten by Woolies :ugh:

you'll be buying new cars at the same time as your bag of spuds next.

Mr.Buzzy 3rd Nov 2011 09:05

White with an accent.......green.....hmmmmm

Bbbbbbbzbzbzbzzzzzzz

mikk_13 3rd Nov 2011 09:34

Strategic need to be start australian charter. Pay a certain amount and get everything included. European style. might be a hit.

PPRuNeUser0161 3rd Nov 2011 10:08

I heard Branson is somehow backing it???? Got this from a travel company manager in Thailand.

SN

1a sound asleep 3rd Nov 2011 10:14


I heard Branson is somehow backing it???? Got this from a travel company manager in Thailand.
The only reason that could wildly be possible is for the AOC and for Virgin to start a low cost carrier now that Virgin is moving up market:confused:

But I really think SRB has enough on his plate with VS

AN1944 3rd Nov 2011 10:17

BRANSON?
 
A low cost virgin ! Hope they have regular checks i wish them well ;)

PPRuNeUser0161 3rd Nov 2011 10:29

1a
That's what I was thinking??? Its hard to do both at once and really no one has done it yet.

SN

GAFA 3rd Nov 2011 10:35

Doubt Branson would be backing it, he learnt his lesson about buying an established airline and said he would never do it again. His reasons were they come with to much baggage and is far easier to start from scratch.

They don't need another AOC, they already have 2 (Virgin Australia and V Australia). If they want to start a new low cost carrier they could use V's once the group's have mergered.

antheads 3rd Nov 2011 12:33

I wish this family owned battler airline all the best, All the doomsayers who were glibly predicting bankrupcy when super payments where due have now choked on their toast. :D

Phuket Bali and Honololu flights are selling well, they need to increase yield tho, marketing of their business class is terrible. I wonder who their partner will be to onsell flights to mainland usa?

If the Qantas/Mas alliance does not go to plan, an air asia/air australia linkup does have a nice ring to it..

1a sound asleep 3rd Nov 2011 13:17

antheads Marketing is their HUGE letdown. Their website is just horrible. I just looked and can booked BNE-HNL return for $888. Its easy to find a $500 HNL-LAX return flight. Thats under $1400 to LAX. They are so missing so many opportunities here. Classic case of charter operator not knowing how to run/sell an airline.

If they came out with a $1499 return to LAX with stop in both directions in HNL they could just be on a winner. I just dont think they know how to do it

Bear Grylls 3rd Nov 2011 22:07


Originally Posted by 1a sound asleep (Post 6787411)
antheads Marketing is their HUGE letdown. Their website is just horrible. I just looked and can booked BNE-HNL return for $888. Its easy to find a $500 HNL-LAX return flight. Thats under $1400 to LAX. They are so missing so many opportunities here. Classic case of charter operator not knowing how to run/sell an airline.

If they came out with a $1499 return to LAX with stop in both directions in HNL they could just be on a winner. I just dont think they know how to do it

. Amen!

Buster Hyman 4th Nov 2011 01:10

Well, I worked with Michael James at Ansett & I found him to be a nice guy. Bit of an Aviation nut, but a lot of us are.:8

I wish them well. Anybody trying to create more aviation jobs in this market deserves some support. :ok:

antheads 5th Nov 2011 13:26

Say "fare-well" to Strategic Airlines and "G'day" to Air Australia with these good-buy fares:

Brisbane - Bali: Economy from $249* & Business from $649*
Brisbane - Phuket: Economy from $329* & Business from $729*
Melbourne - Phuket: Economy from $329* & Business from $729*
Brisbane - Honolulu: Economy from $349* & Business from $749*
Melbourne - Honolulu: Economy from $349* & Business from $749*



*Subject to availability on selected flights only. Terms and conditions apply. Honolulu services commence 14th Dec 2011 and are subject to regulatory approval. On sale until 21 Nov 2011 or until sold out.



sic as bro, pretty damm close to air asia to bali n phuket with their sale fares.. i think AA(sic) has a bright future..

DeltaT 14th Nov 2011 09:07

Is the ex Strategic/new Air Australia going to get a new website?

training wheels 14th Nov 2011 13:32

I saw them taxi in at Bali on the weekend .. still using 'Strategic' as their callsign.. the new paint job looks great. Also on the apron were two freshly painted Virgin Australia 737s also looking great.

jackthelad 14th Nov 2011 20:51

Air Australia's New Web Link
 
Here it is Air Australia - Home

BOBO THE CLOWN 23 15th Nov 2011 01:25

Bne-mel
 
I see they are starting bne-Mel next month. I guess thats a better run for a 320 than bne-Gladstone.

Fat Ops Controller 15th Nov 2011 05:08

$69.00 BNE-MEL or vv, good for the XMAS/New Year Break

Eastwest Loco 15th Nov 2011 11:22

ant

You need a travel professional.

Currently under $600 SYD or MEL return DPS on GA. Full service included and gentle on sporting equipment like grass filled bodyboard bags etc.

I however am very pleased to say I have a VC "plate" and a mate ex Korean Air who is with them in senior management. Great bloke looking forward to his tenure with a start-up. Wish I was there too.

If anyone here wishes to book VC flights for the next 3 months I will do it at face value and give 20% discount on insurance. That means full after hours service and no service fees. I want them to do well.

Bear - there is a cheaper 1 airline way to get to LAX. I would publish it here but that would further defuse my alleged reason for being. Mixing airlines is always a risk unless you intend to chuck a stopover in both directions.

I would love to know how they snagged Air Australia. That name was property of TAA (Australian National Airlines Commission) for years. Obviously lack of use allows such to lapse.

Love the colour scheme. A little bit of the Eeenie Weenie in there.

Go you good thing you.

Best all

EWL

jarden 18th Nov 2011 14:10

Air Australia makes a bid for Vietnam Flights, Plane talking
 
This could have potential for Air Australia, as currently there is no BNE - Vietnam direct flights:

The application announced today to the International Air Services Commission for an allocation of four flights a week between Australia and Vietnam for Air Australia, formerly Strategic Airlines, is intriguing at number of levels.
Then there is the future shape of Air Australia to consider. The airline has now applied for or already been allocated more capacity to the US, China, Indonesia and Thailand than it can service with six A320s and one A330-200. It has indicated that it will obtain additional A330s, and it has been recruiting additional pilots, but details of those substantial investments to service the traffic rights granted or sought have not yet been announced.
In the case of Vietnam the Air Australia application says it wants to operate the four flights from any or all of the mainline cities of Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth, starting in March next year, and reaching the full allocation by the end of February 2013. Air Australia additionally requests an allocation of capacity from smaller Australian ports, which of course could mean Darwin, Cairns, the Gold Coast, Canberra and Adelaide, but that would mean even more A330s.
The services to Honolulu, and to destinations in China, are also due to begin next year.
The Air Australia application is just over one A4 page in size. It doesn’t need to be any longer because as a wholly owned Australian carrier, already flying abroad, it is automatically a flag carrier, and eligible for any unused or otherwise available allocations that are provided for by the various open skies or bilateral air traffic agreements Australia has made with other states.
It is a case of ask, get, and then find the money and equipment needed to fly

Jack Ranga 18th Nov 2011 22:58

I've been banging' on about the shafting you get going to Vietnam for ages. If they get this route, they'll get custom from me for sure.

Melbourne-Darwin (insert bullsh!t 4 or 5 hour stopover)-Vietnam on the supposed flag carrier.

Good luck to them!

Bear Grylls 19th Nov 2011 14:06

Is it me or does it seem they're lacking a bit of advertising? I've never seen an ad on telly, nor an advertisement in the Herald Sun.

Cargo744 20th Nov 2011 06:56

Bear,

I have seen adverts on TV (mostly the digital channels) and heard adverts on radio (B105 from memory). These were as Strategic though. I haven't heard anything other than an interview on Today regarding Air Aus.

-438 20th Nov 2011 07:58

Good luck to Strategic-Air Aus, I hope they do well.
With the routes they are aiming at, I wouldn't be surprised to see them get involved with a large international player looking to get local access to Australian based international routes.

Heritage 1 21st Nov 2011 07:49

Anyone know what the T&C's are for flight deck?


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