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TAC inop. 7th Oct 2011 12:09

it wont have any Gajin Oz in it anyway, thats the criteria for their trainset.
A funny lepricorn will ultimately try to control it ...tho I suspect its branding only, so JAL and Mitsi will give him the cold sholder and run it anyway the feel like running it
....and return it when it's farked

This aint for us....dunno why they are fishing

pilotdreams1977 8th Oct 2011 21:36

JCAB's in Australia
 
WTF?!??! Why does Jokestar even bother advertising here in Aus if their website says they require a JCAB licence.........its like everyone here in Aus strives to convert our ICAO licence (which is semi-usefull overseas) to an extremely globally marketable JCAB licence.

And very true about the living in Tokyo or Osaka on a standard JQ salary. And if you have kids and want to send them an international school in Japan.....holy crap, after rent, and school bills.........not much left.

However....if you are a single guy and somehow hold a JCAB licence.....and like to party....then let the good times roll!!!

FFG 02 9th Oct 2011 05:46

Question for Wedcue.
 
Code:

If any Qantas pilot accepts Jetstar Japan I will run naked up Coward St with a sign saying, "I love Bruce."
Wedcue - are you by any chance a good looking chick? I really hope you aren't 64.

Bula 9th Oct 2011 07:15

BB only knows what his hench men tell him.... Unfortunately his henchmen are compulsive at telling the truth but not the whole truth. Interesting.....

Bright Spark 9th Oct 2011 08:35

JQ almost tells the truth, but in a very circular fashion, if you go back to the start of this tread Kremin asked about not carrying animals because the holds are unpressurised, the holds are pressurised but the A320 holds are not heated, therefore they don't carry animals, this decision made when ordering the A320 fleet.

Soooooo, unheated, unpressurised slight technicality, same end result for animals in holds, very stiff on arrival.

That's JQ management thinking, I don't understand why, so I'll just make up something that sounds close.

Bright

mohikan 9th Oct 2011 08:49

I recently spoke to one of the few JCAB license holders who is employed in the Qantas group. He told me to his knowledge there are only a handful of other JCAB license holders in the group and the ones he knows are not going up there for 7K per month for a Capt

He basically validated all of Fuji's points, but added that the failure rate up in Japan for guys and girls with between 7000-10,000 hours previous heavy jet experience ranges between 50-80% of each course. The JCAB check and medical is a nightmare and expensive if self renewing.

If they try self funded endorsements on, you will be looking at between $ 80-110 K USD.

All this for JQ money in the 2nd most expensive city in the world............

Maisk Rotum 14th Oct 2011 08:18

B.... is hilarious! If he thinks for one second he is going to negotiate a better/shorter licencing sytem he needs to change what he smokes. The JCAB will not change their sytem because he asks nicely. I have a JCAB licence with check pilot approval and A320 experience with QF group and am not interested in the slightest unless it is commuting and USD17,000 a month net. Perhaps I should apply for the fun of it -please someone let us know what they are paying so I don't have to.

neville_nobody 14th Oct 2011 08:26


but added that the failure rate up in Japan for guys and girls with between 7000-10,000 hours previous heavy jet experience ranges between 50-80% of each course. The JCAB check and medical is a nightmare and expensive if self renewing.
I believe the high failure rate is some local union stunt to keep foreigners out of the Japanese pilot market. You're failed for anything and everything.

This little adventure won't be getting off the ground unless Jetstar want to start paying to train locals.

peuce 14th Oct 2011 08:27

The cynic in me thinks that they hope NO ONE in Australia applies.
They want locals, but they have to be seen to be offering jobs to Australians.

"We offered ... no one accepted ... not our fault"

Toruk Macto 14th Oct 2011 23:49

Japan I hear is the only country were it cost more to employ a local than a expat .

4dogs 15th Oct 2011 09:07

Political Positioning
 
There is only one reason to advertise in Australia, particularly when the available pool of qualified candidates is miniscule:

so that you can tell the politicians that you did it!

and that will prove that there is no reduction in job opportunities for Australian pilots in Jetstar and thus no off-shoring of QF...

Stay Alive

TAC inop. 19th Oct 2011 02:56

Yup, spot on 4dogs

Maisk...maybe you dont qualify either...unless you currently have Japanese residency. Are you Japanese, or married to Japanese?
The requirements listed are JACAB, and the right of residency. It appears that although some have the 1st, the 2nd part is pretty much only for our Nihon brothers.

Sure, they could apply for a temp visa on your behalf, but then, they could do that for anybody.
Similarly, they could run anyone through the JACAB at the type rating too.

Far as I see, you need both, or no cigar. They can then feel free to say that no Aussie met the requirements.


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