Does anybody think that Joyce and Clifford are softening up the market for a major change in tactics. Perhaps A380s to J* between Asia and London. Fill them full of economy seats and charge for everything else that a passenger may like once up and away. Captive market 700-800 punters. Could it work?

Well... Q eng lost a tender for a major reconfig of the A380. Why reconfig a new aircraft?
I'll let that one simmer for a bit.

It could work because they would sell it as a Qantas flight then put the customers on a JQ flight. Too late at the gate to do anything.

I was visiting the top end of Oz recently and a group of tourists were complaining about Qantas, many different reasons but the main one being they had paid for Qantas domestic flights and ended up on Jetstar flights. They were not happy and told everyone on our dinner table and surrounding areas.

Gee and I wonder why we are losing market share? Must be those greedy pilots and engineers! Why does an Airline even need pilots and engineers... Let's just employ accountants and marketing yuppies... That'll work... Yeah!:ugh:

Possible Playbook
 

1/. Run down the Qantas brand and the share price, while rapidly building J*
2/. Provoke a major industrial storm
3/. Use this to justify rapidly deploying J* on selected Qantas routes
4/. Sell off Jetstar + assets to private equity buyers such as KKR, to "save" Qantas
5/. "sorry, that didn't work", Q into receivership, its the governments problem now.
6/. Reposition J* in the market, with lower cost base and only Virgin to compete with
7/. We now have a far leaner airline with new planes, cheaper staff and no pesky Qantas Sale Act.

So if QF Int gets out from under the control of these guys, isn't that a good thing? Someone can be gotten in who can run things properly say 'look old management were :mad: and we are now going to win you all back'.

Maybe we want this end game now?

I can read the future......
 

Pilots and cabin crew could work for free and it makes zilch in terms of profitablity of the QF product, this is a management fail and they should worry about it not the employees. Bring it Joyce just bring it, cant wait for it to start!:)

If the ACCC would let it I can see VB taking over Qantas, then SIA and ANZ taking over VB. Not just yet - let it go for another 6 months - pilots on strike, engineers on strike. VB step in to save the day.

Maybe Just maybe......
 

Borghetti is a double agent ?

A J-Virus 380,just think how many muffins you could carry?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...80lepbig34.jpg

Hi the-flying-z, thanks for the pic but I needed to sort out the registration, VH-TIM did my head in. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pica...layer_embedded

Alan Joyce has just accepted the position of Chairman of the Board of Governers of IATA from June 2012. I would have thought Joyce had enough on his plate working full time for the QF shareholders. No doubt the QF shareholders will be picking up the tab for the travelling expenses and everything else Joyce will be doing on behalf of IATA (next AGM is in Beijing).

The arrogance of this little Irish prick is absolutely beyond belief

is there something else going on here?
 

Doesn't say much for IATA, no one else wanted the chair, or is there something else going on here?

Standby for the announcment from him that his responsibilities at IATA are not leaving him enough time to dedicate to the Qantas Group and therefore he has tendered his resignation to the Board, who have reluctantly accepted it.

Blah blah blah

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The Kelpie

I'd say you're on the money as usual Kelpie :cool:

Good riddance of the little man.

I can taste the celebrations already!

Let's just hope that the Kelpie is on the money!