HA! Very funny. Unless you've got his personal mobile number I daresay that you will NOT be put through to him by the staff.

Yes, I can back that up and I even had plenty of contacts.

FRQ CB

frq Cb,
yes calling is usually very hit or miss, usually miss as they won't let u talk to anyone, even HR at many places which makes everything even more frustrating when u are looking.

neville_nobody,

To quote Anthill:


If ten thousand hours is low time, then not many people stand a chance at getting a job...

A lot of the F100 DEC have significant experience flying for large airlines across the globe, in aircraft from 737 to A330 and everything in between. They choose to take the job, among other things for lifestyle/family reasons. They are valuable additions to the company. All the latest FO's bar one have previous jet experience.

A lot of people on here and in particular, this thread, tend to contribute a lot of inaccurate and baseless s%&t. If you think this is helping people who are genuinely interested in applying for a position at a company such as Network, you are not. Unless you have something useful to offer, keep ya traps shut.

Yes, Network has seen a lot of growth over the past 10 months and there is still a steady stream of employment (not the "desperate for anyone" type as other posters suggest) across the entire company, but it won't last forever. So if the job appeals to you, and you meet the minimum requirements then do the research, do the study and stick your app in.

My reference/experience was to the FO positions which their recruiting for was shambolic at best so I wasn't surprised at the complaints on here. Hopefully since they have got their stuff together.

Yeah that's just ONE guy, you need more than that to run a flight department. What was the average?

Are you talking about T&Cs, the actual recruiting/interview process, or both? What was shambolic in your view? I'm only curious because you suggest that the higher time guys are saying 'no thanks' because one or all of those things is in your view, not acceptable. The reality would suggest otherwise, and to answer your second question, and its a guess at best because I don't know exactly how many hours each and every guy has, but based on knowledge of their careers and age I would estimate the new FOs would average 2000 jet hours, ranging from at least 800 hours on jet right up to 10,000 for 2 or 3 of them. As for the captains, I would say anywhere from 5000 hours jet upwards. As someone mentioned months ago (and many didn't believe it), they have recruited guys (captains and FOs) from Jetstar, Dragon, Ryanair, Mango, to name a few, so I'm struggling to see the validity in your comments, with due respect. Indeed your expereicne may have been a bad one, I'm not discrediting you, but it was your experience, not that of every person that attempted to get a job there.

Mango.....?

Mango is based in South Africa somewhere, I think.

It can be "Fandango" for all I care. :E:E (look it up).
Thanks for all the informed posts above.
Basically it's no jet time, no job as a F100 FO.
That seems to be the situation based on the above info.

I take it someone's post was deleted?

DEC F100 captains
 

Recent ad shows Network once again looking for crew. With the collapse in the resources sector one would've thought they may want to lay off crew rather than be hiring! Or is it due to a mass exodus to the sandpit? Can anyone shed some light? Now that Qantas has been running them for a few years has it become a "real" airline or is it still a GA operation with jets as someone suggested a few years ago?:ok:

There has been no collapse in the resource sector. A large amount of construction work has been completed meaning the trades associated with construction have stopped being employed.
At the same time the iron ore and oil & gas prices are very low which means companies are cost cutting where possible.
The mines are still digging stuff up and exporting it.

With that said, Network needs crew.

Sounds very dramatic. Do you have any numbers?

Thinking of coming back? Better get your visa application in pronto!! :}

No "collapse" but I did see a tumbleweed or two (during "rush" hour) when I was last there a few weeks ago. I recall a time when it was absolutely pumping.

Hmmmm I guess VARA F100 pilots will be lining up for these slots. How time changes things!

Let's see......the "Vision" is a job with QF group, QF Staff travel and Business class seating when paxing. Now that's a Game Changer!

I notice a person has joined Network.

Owner of KFS .... Or ex owner now?

Cathay pilot, pump a few $ into a GA outfit, go be an FO on a F100.

Got ahead of the VARA lads!

Why would VARA pilots be lining up for these slots?! It would be a massive drop in both pay and conditions....

Anyone got a list of the pay and conditions?
I found an Award but it had no Pay.

Yes, that's the one

Fell for that one, Laser! :D

1 captain has left for the sandpit, 1 captain has left for ANA, 1 captain has left for Virgin, 1 captain has left for VARA.

It's no secret that NAA are doing more and more of Q RPT flying, as the number of punters on each route diminishes due to the end of the "construction phase" up north. Q have openly stated that they are sending more 737's back to the east coast and replacing them with F100's, hence the recruitment drive.

The FO's have been a mixed bag, with most of the "high time" guys (I use this term for both genders) having made the move across to the left. Those that are left do not have the company prescribed minimums to be considered for an upgrade so (right or wrong) the CP has made the decision to recruit externally for DEC's. Unfortunately some of the current FO's only have a hand full of hours to gain before meeting the minimum requirements but will probably miss out due to crappy timing.

To "generalize", the T&C's are probably better than Alliance but worse than VARA or NJS. The biggest issue is the complete lack of rostering stability which is universally detested among the crew. This has been and still is one of the issues blocking the successful negotiation of a new EBA (the CWA is 3 years expired) and I personally can not see a resolution in the immediate future. The money is not great when compared to the aforementioned companies but a loyalty bonus after years 3 & 5 help bump it up a little. Staff travel is good and I believe handled fairly and equitably.

The CP is a good bloke with his heart in the right place, but as is the case in all large organizations (by that I mean the Q group) he is constrained by company policy.

If you are happy where you are then stay. If you are thinking of applying because the grass is greener - it aint and it rarely ever is. That being said, job security appears to be good looking forward and you will fly with a great bunch of guys and gals on a daily basis.

So there it is, I've tried to paint an unbiased picture without my own personal prejudices (and yes there are a number) so those of you considering might be able to make a more informed choice. Good luck.