Lookleft, no personality types are on display here. You must work in Casa. Send me a private message with your number. Otherwise F O!

Such a kind invitation! and no I don't work for CASA but I have worked for one of your suggested nominees for an aviation expert.

So Lookie get the balls and decency to discuss or is that not your style? Gutless?

You remind me of someone else with your angry rhetoric Jinglie. Willie waving contests at dawn is it? I was making a comment on your suggestion for high level office. If you for some strange reason have taken that as a personal slight that is your problem not mine. If you want to engage in off the ball back play go right ahead, it is just as easy for you to PM as it is for me but the difference is I have no interest and, for some reason only known to yourself, it has taken on life importance for you.

Why don't you take your whinge to the Senators rather than here Lookie? I think Kharon put it nicely...... The gates are open...."

Donkey tales.
 

Correct – however; if the promises made are to have any substance and we are to get an effective "Junior Minister" then it seems to me only 'proper' that an independent be brought in; if only for the sake of impartiality. Same at the cricket – impartial umpire. Most of the "names" have either a track record, connections, obligations or axes, some have the full set. Seems that a honest, politically smart start would be to bring in a clean skin – in, out and gone. At least then the warring factions could start off on a level playing field.

LS makes a good point, cynically (read political) an 'independent' would make an excellent donkey on which to pin the inevitable tail of blame, it is a very Australian pastime.

Settle settle settle
 

C'mon guys, things have been peaceful for a bit. No fighting. Offline is the best place for it. Otherwise the Mods will wield the padlock.
On this occasion, and I do not want to raise the heckles of Jinglie, and I know that Lookyloo and I aren't the best of friends, but I have to agree 130% with Lookys post about Big Trev. That's a big negative, and those who have worked with the big man (you ain't the only one Looky, trust me) will know exactly why he wouldn't suit the role of DAS. That's a big hell no!
Back to the drawing board boys......

Creamie,
I agree, that is what we face.

Will it be different this time? For the first time in years, we have a couple of Senators genuinely fired up --- and with some aviation knowledge, or in the case of Fawcett, a lot of aviation knowledge, and don't forget, it was Fawcett as an MHR that finally broke CASA's resistance to NVG.

Will Truss change things for aviation? depends on the pressure.

Will Truss remain as leader of the Nats?, and Deputy PM --- that's a wild card.

Is his expected successor interested in these problems --- yes he is. Will he do anything? Only time will tell.

Will we get a junior Minister for Aviation in Transport --- its been promised --- but not for the first time.

Tootle pip!!

PS: Bloggs, Take a deep breath, the edit would only to correct spelling, but Creamie is right.

004,
Mary Mary quite contrary has long since retired to well deserved obscurity, and my souvenir is a pretty FAA Certificate saying I have completed the FAA "Suspected Unapproved Parts Identification" course.

She would have fitted a job in the present CASA to a T, she thought she had found a vast criminal conspiracy, and career wise, it was going to carry her to a job as Secretary of DoT. Didn't happen, wrong boat.

Re. NZ, I did not mean to disparage their aviation efforts, the "overseas expert", politically, will be unlikely to be found in NZ.

An aviation act along the NZ line, and a set of regulations very close their "rules" would do very nicely, thanks --- but the changes would be to simplify them further, and weed out a few local NZ peculiarities. ie: type ratings, go with the FAA. Likewise, FAA VFR, which would mean, more or less, reverting to the VFR we used to have before CASA cocked up Class D --- GAAP was so near as made no difference to FAA D as made no difference. A case of mindless application of ICAO in Australia, but only when it disadvantages local aviation.

Tootle pip!!

Drift On.
 

Only a slight drift while we are waiting :-

We seem to have managed this for single engine types without any horror stories; the addition of 'special design features' seems a sane, sensible way to manage things. So why not adopt the FAA system for multi engine <5700 Kg. First, I would destroy all trace of CAO 40.1.0 and all it's little appendages, what an absolute embuggerance of a shambles it is. It typifies, more than any other the mad, complicated, twisted – Ok, ok, I'll stop there....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/embarass.gif

Drift off – back to the mute button (changing channels is of no practical assistance).

While we're waiting Phearless Phelan provides a summary of the LibNat aviation policy (which I don't think has been linked yet?): Coalition’s aviation policies revealed

&

Official Coalition Policy

Waiting...waiting...ho..hum!:zzz:

Kharon old mate, its always been my belief that whoever in the bowels of CAsA's rear end wrote CAO 40 should have received a knighthood for penning the most incomprehensible load of gobbeldegook ever devised in the annuls of beauracatese. There has been many who have followed but none that have come close to devising anything as convoluted, incomprehensible and totally valueless as CAO 40.

Thorny, CAO 40 is a prime example of how select bureaucratic lawyers have raped aviation in Australia. (There are countless other examples though)
The buggery continues unabated.

CAO 40
 

Well I'm confused!

Didn't CAO 40 and it's ANO equivalent look pretty much the same in format and principle in the 70s and 80s as it does now? This apparent blight on humanity is older than most of the whingers on here... :uhoh:

So where is the campaign and the protagonists' argument to have it changed and how long has it been running? :eek:

Scrubba,
Only the names have been more or less constant, there have been countless changes, most of them not good.
Tootle pip!!

The rot remains in and out of CASA - Mates rates and wankers.
 

Almost as many changes as CEO's, DAS's, assorted bum lickers, GM Operations types and the odd LSD nupty.

I hear that the newly appointed Bald Eagle's first job as GM Operations is to cover the GWM ass, hence a clean up and reappointment of a new Melbourne Field Office manager is a priority, and now advertised. Gotta protect Terry's family.:= All that minor experience at Archerfield highly qualifies him, not! I wonder if he, Harbor and Harbor's girlfriend are still all friends? :=

I also hear that one R. Collins, famous for looking after Transair and buddy Les is also as popular at the CAA as a 'Quinn in a pub'. That is so funny, the little fella, author of SMS ****e and serial idiot can't cut the mustard in PNG. What a tool. :mad:

Meanwhile the Skull, yes the angry incompetent bad shirt wearing DAS continues his ranting and raving around the place, more bad performances in front of staff, more public displays of aggression, child like whinging and uncontrolled outbursts. Grow up little boy.:D

And finally the Witchdoctor. Shouldn't bag out John in public, very unprofessional, doctor :=

I would really love to know more about that, maybe the good Doctor has started to return to sanity.

Tootle pip!!

Perhaps the voodoo Doc bagged out Mr Skulls Friday Hawaiian shirts?
Or perhaps the Doc is referring to the execs all attended a 'love in' and for entertainment they placed Mr Angry in a hessian bag, trussed (not Warren) him up as a piñata and proceeded to do to him what he has been doing to our industry? Could that be a reference to 'bagging'? Maybe Collins was there as well?

Casaweary you have our attention, more detail please?

At the village pump -
 

Don't know about the accuracy there CW; the way I heard it, first there was a training course in "Wodger" writing, followed by a series of letters to be writ. Only a Bankstown crew coffee break rumour of course; but they do say that Wodger has left a trail of very, very dodgy decisions in his wake supported by even shakier evidence; and, these need to be covered off. Apparently, it's all part of the mystical induction into the GWM. They do say that part of the process involves becoming guilty of something, at least by association so that you will be as keen as mustard, come cover up time. This is before the ritual lobotomy ceremony and funny hat issue party. The gods willing, there may come a time where hard facts can be heard, evidence tested and maybe even a little justice metered out. Time will tell of course, but the odds seem to favour at least a partial exposure. I can wait.

Or, they finally got the medication right. No one has told him yet, but the grinding noise he hears is real – it's Phelan and Sandilands sharpening the pencils in preparation. Rumour of the week - if the Senate don't get it sorted – the press will; and I love a good yarn, well told...http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif

Where did you here that? Seems to be OK from stories at the Dero Club