Maybe it had more to do with engagement and the big picture rather than local issues.

Engagement has a lot to do with the local issues too.

All LAMEs are equal
 

If you do not see the need to bridge the gap between your level 4 and level 15 LAMEs and have everyone on the same shift penalties ASAP, the division Q Management is implementing slowly will only increase and the strength the ALAEA and the QF LAMEs have will cease to be a show stopper.

Quite a flammable first post MEA332!

But I agree, the single licence guys at QF are paid WELL below the industry average for LAMEs in this country these days...

also-

EQUAL PENALTIES FOR ALL!!! :D

You Lames have short memories , the current pay scale was brought in to give HM LAME's a career path beyond just one licence , the trade off for that was that Line LAME's would get a bit less , but at the end it would equal out . Well here you are , whinging and complaining , but could not give a toss about the old AME , you greedy grubs. in the end you will destroy yourselves with greed, mark my words!

There is no distinction between line and heavy LAME's in the agreement. A LAME is a LAME.

A 63 year old AME is just bitter. Its understandable when you see these 20 somethings who make an effort to better themselves get paid twice as much as you even though you probably mentored them a few years earlier.

Your anger should be directed to the AWU/AMWU/CEPU/whoever is your AME union for your sub national average wage, not the ALAEA or the people who certify for your work.

unionist, there is no career path.It gives all a chance to progress thru the pay scales.
Qantas is a complex workplace so the award must cater for all, agreed.
Your collective "you LAMEs " and "greedy grubs" is pretty insulting by including everyone when very few actually post, a few of which may or may not fit into your narrow minded opinion.

AMEs have their own union for better or worse.If and when they gain a licence they can choose their affiliation.

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What absolute rubbish! What rock have you been living under?

Yep, gotta agree with the younger fellas on this one. There was always the opportunity
to better one's self over the years.
I also note that you are older than me, yet you are a union member only from 1974. What's that all about?

unionist1974, I suggest you get your facts right! A few older AME's who have been sitting on all basics complete! have, will and are on type courses!

I find that most, not all, AMEs who constantly complain are the ones with no SOE or completed basics, it is just an excuse to make them feel better for not putting in the effort and doing something other then changing light bulbs or wheels and brakes.

It is not greed that drives me unionist1974, it is equal rights and pay for all! It is the older guys who voted out the early shift penalty for a pay rise... so who is the greedy one now? It is time for the same people to help vote it back in.

Happy New Year
MEA332

mea, didn't they get a cold weather jacket for that crappy deal?
One of the better ####-you-jack moments in the past.

Maybe during this EBA they should try and right the wrongs of LAMEs who were shafted during the Sydney HM shutdown.

Some never left the company and had to take lower paid non licensed jobs just to stay in QF and then there are some other who have come back still fully qualified on current QF types and are being shafted once again as the company is using their skills and experience but only paying them AME wages.

The support from the ALAEA back in 05/06 was less than fantastic,but with that executive now long gone,and now the current executive having a backbone then they should try and fix this up.

The casual LAME workforce in SYD(jobs for the boys) has been scaled back for now, so this would be the right time.

Talk about today of redundanies in october just wondering was this been spread to blunt the EBA, the source was said to be a base ops manager, just thought Id pass it on

If the offer of redundancies actually occurs there will be plenty of interest (as usual)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are not a number of Brissy LAMEs still waiting release from the last round?
With the 380 eating labour and renewed business confidence I suspect they will need plenty of labour.If redundancies are offered it will be very limited imho and probably won't affect our eba outcome.

They intend to implement no man transits. How minimal would the impact be then?

The 380 surely eats labour but I thought they didnt want any more LAMEs, they wanted to train in house from AMEs.

And the selection process for LAMEs is a load of crap anyway.

Fed sec, if they intend no man transits that of course is a different story.
I was not aware of that when I posted.
We know it has been in the PPM for some time.
regardless of eba they will do it they wish.

NMT
 

No man transits what a revolutionary idea. This will allow us to get rid of the rest of the deadwood and kept those who share management's vision. I have done all the courses offered to me and get paid accordingly. when redundancies come around those that have declined courses will have to survive as they can I know i'll be ok.

with the defects on all the aircraft these days i think they will never be any "no man" transits. Let them go ahead and implement them. See if the public like the fact that no engineer checks the aircraft. QF will turn around and say they get the pilots to do the walk around, and that they have been trained. We all know it takes more than a day of slide shows to spot things on an aircraft.

It is becoming quite a joke!