Thanks maui,you have just verified that we are living in the 'Me' generation.

People today are so self absorbed that they fail to see or are not interested in what others have to put up with so that they can get what they want in life....

I would like to know how you would feel if your flight deck/work environment/office was that cold that you had to put a blanket around yourself to keep warm because you could not turn the heat up ?

Then we would see how many are disengaged as you put it in your office and how they responded to customers or anyone else you deal with?

Thanks
LL

All I can say to that is Here Here!!

LL,
On your next visit to the 330 flight deck, you may want to have a look at the windscreen frame. You will see the ice that forms on the inside of the frame caused by the heat transfer through the metal frame, a piece of metal alloy that runs the full thickness of the airframe, just like the door frame this topic is about. Until they build the frame supports from a non-conductive material, the heat transfer will happen, it's called physics. In the meantime Bulstrode and their kind should toughen up, do something proactive about staying warm and stop whining about how this affects their comfort and their ability to do their job. I bet it's not cold enough to refuse to work there, and instigate a proper workplace investigation. That would require you to make a stand, with all the recriminations that may result. God help us if some of these wimpy little urchins are ever called on in a tough spot. :ugh:

And LL, I agree, the vast majority of cc are top folk, but a few of them are total drips. Me thinks Bulstrode, having a whinge about this on a pilots forum is pretty feeble.
Bye the bye Bulstrode, be ever-so careful opening those drink cans, might chip a nail if you're not careful.

Facts:
-A330 galleys are cold. (so is the upper deck on a 744 and numerous other
places.
-Our requests for woolen garments to combat this continues to be denied.
-A330 galleys being cold is not the cause of disengagement, the response to
our request is.

Crap:
-The level of service cabin crew provide is compromised because the galley is
cold.

As a pax on the 330 I have stood in the galley at doors 2 on several occasions. It is colder than a polar bears bum. Usually I wear shoes, on one occasion just those socky things provided - it was freezing on the floor. The cabin sit there rugged up with blankets and hot water bottles. It is not someone's imagination at work here, it is friggen cold.

The only way to attack the issue is via OHS. The company doesn't have any concern for any staff members welfare unless it costs them money. An unfortunate legacy of Geoff.

...great for keeping the milk cold for the cornflakes:)

Back Seat Driver aka Fairy Floss
 

Just imagine if the cockpit was so cold water froze and you needed a Gortex jacket....old BSD would be onto the Fleet Manager in a flash.
The temperature in the Cabin of an A330 is not controlled from the flight Deck but from the FAP at L1
The flying dinosaurs, who are real men, are always critical of those who complain about their imperfect environment.
The flight deck is about as close as going back to the womb as it gets.There is more going on behind the flight deck then there is in front of it.Get of your fat derrieres and find out what happens on the rest of the aircraft.
A stand has been made,reports written and surveys conducted.
Conclusion: the A330 is a Fridge.
So how do you fix that?
C'mon you genii provide an inexpensive and effective solution for the aircraft.
There will not be one of you smart enough.
There will be obtusely amusing jibes and sarcastic commentary but little else.
Bloody typical

Cold Cabins
 

Bring back the F/E's.

Temperature Controls
 

The Cabin Temperature control on the flight deck of the A330 provides a reset function only.
Airbus are reknowned for putting lotsa things lotsa places for no apparent reason.

The Flight Deck Door Activity
 

There are two to four people in front of the flight deck door.
There can be hundreds behind it.
Gee I wonder where all the activity is?.
The BS and the arrogance is certainly greater in front of it.
Just to stay on track...its always warmer on the flight deck.
Something to do with large amounts of hot air and gases equalizing apparently

With the greatest respect, obviously not a stand that carries any weight. One of the earlier contributors was right. This needs to become a safety issue before it will get any great attention. An OHS issue would see it dealt with....as long as it fits the criteria.

Of course it will take someone to actually do the research on the relevant OHS legislation and rules to work out how to prosecute the issue correctly. Time spent moaning about it- or whinging about who has the biggest pen..I mean workload- on PPRUNE is time not spent on getting a solution. :ugh: :rolleyes:

KegMeister
 

A stand has been made.You work for QF .You know these things take time.
The matter is before the OH and S committee even as we type.

Not by the fairies running around the bottom of the prune garden crying like a bunch of kiddies throwing a tantrum about how cold it is in 330 galleys. Harangue your manager with your hysterics, and in the meantime, Harden-Up.

Macho Dinosaur
 

The Back Seat Driver has spoken.All is right with world

Defcon 4, you are mistaken - (Cap Q too)
380Driver is correct.
A330 FCOM - "The flight crew uses the temperature selectors on the air panel in the cockpit to select the reference temperature which are fine tuned through the FAP for the cabin zones".... so on and so on
Get your facts right or you will look stupid. :ugh:

Reference Temperature
 

Indicates and effects a minimum or maximum range of temperature inside which cabin temperature can be varied from the FAP.
Has any A330 driver ever been asked to reset minimum or maximum range by anyone outside the flight deck?
The cabin temperature can be effectively controlled by the FAP with no input from the flight deck.
Be careful BSB next time you touch something the dog might bite you

Blackguard, deliver the facts of your case not inane dog tails, you wannabe.The FAP has an adjustment range of +/- 3 deg.C of the temp.set in the flight deck which has a rotary select knob with a range of 18-30 deg. C.
If as it seems you don't know that, then for everyones sake, stay away from the FAP. You are probably the cause not the fix. If you have suffered through a 'cold spell' and not asked the Flt deck for help with the temperature control, then you're a goose. :{

Cabin Temperature
 

Depending on the number of pax and whether or not the Aircraft is airborne the ideal cabin temperature is around 24.Moving within a range of 3 to 4 degrees is sufficient.Input from flight deck not required.
Next time we need a tall buxom blonde to disrobe the flight deck will asked to ramp the temperature up to 30

And therein lies the problem. Defcon4 has got all the answers.
Handing over to defcon, You have control. NOT

BSB Irrelevant ?
 

C'mon old son you dont need to micromanage everything.
May be you do and thats part of your myopia.
The Airbus temperatures are all over the shop.
The FAP says 24 and the pax in that zone of the Cabin are freezing.You can feel the coldness of the air coming from the vents.It is definitley not 24
This is particularly evident just forward of doors three.
If you ventured into cabin you would know that