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Qantas Airbus A330/200/300 The Flying Freezer

Old 26th Feb 2009, 22:46
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Qantas Airbus A330/200/300 The Flying Freezer

These(Qantas) Aircraft are unbelievably cold particularly around the Galleys.Even through the cabin it is difficult to stabilize the temperature.Thr heat pads around doors 1 and 4 have issues.
The aircraft are cold enough to freeze a glass of water on the door 4 bustle.I kid you not.
And yes we know how to use the FAP
Is it just Qantas Aircraft with this problem or are they all like this?
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 23:21
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Is this why A330's climb like a brick sh!thouse once they get above f280? Bleeding too much air from the engines to provide an igloo like cabin instead of producing something useful, like thrust?
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 00:02
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Don't knock the bus. She goes alright!
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 00:14
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Be glad your cold... better than bloody hot...

Remember a 10hr flight and the front section aircon packed up... bloody farken hot....

I agree the bus is nicer... than a 767-300ER in so many ways, but still doesnt beat the led -200 / ER!
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 00:39
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Everything I have read about the A330 is great from a passenger point of view and they tend to cruise faster than B76's or B73's (least as far as Oz is concerned) but just wish the buggers could climb... and don't get me started on descent speeds and profiles!

Surely there is some sort of thermostat control on them... Even the PC9 ECS has one for goodness sake!
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 00:55
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its all got to do with how many zones and sensors options you have in your cabin, aircrafts initially meant for domestic runs,now running long range
will always have temp stabilising issues.

Also airline policy to keep cabins cold to save fuel, Air As*a X,
and then sell blankets on board.

Fokkers,
Embraers,
Bombardiers,
and Airbuses are very bad,

its also the whole aircraft bad design
badly placed outlets and louvres,
dirty airconditioning systems,
bid galleys at the back of the cabin are difficult to heat,
minimal use of insulation to save weight.

the best are the boeings,ask the people flying them.
i hope this last statement will keep the discussion going.
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 01:44
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Another nonsensical rambling from RUP. Ignore this fool. Surely a wind-up
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 02:02
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The aircraft are cold enough to freeze a glass of water on the door 4 bustle.I kid you not.
Funny, I don't recall seeing cup-holders included in the door bustles. I wonder why not? OH Hang on, maybe Airbus decided not to heat the slide/raft pack, much to the detriment of your hydration regime. Perhaps there is more to it than you have already considered.
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 02:28
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Having paxed on numerous A333's I didn't find there was an issue, both in Y & J cabins.

In the latest CCN it mentioned that floor heaters are being enabled again?
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 03:06
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Temperature Issues

The aforementioned glass of water on the bustle was purposefully placed to see what would happen.The water iced over.
Paxing somewhere on an Airbus would not give you any idea of Cabin temperature.You are supplied with a blanket and a diligent crew would constantly monitor the cabin temeperature and alter accordingly.
The Galleys on these kites are a farce...they are abolutely freezing.Qantas has just allowed their crews to wear the uniform all weather jacket in the galleys on night services.
Morrisey didnt supply or design knitwear for the QF uniform because...get this...he doesnt believe in it
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 03:39
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I want what Rup is on.......

Is it good? Sounds like it
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 04:58
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Remember a 10hr flight and the front section aircon packed up...
Skystar...Skystar...Do you remember the story of Pinocchio.....
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 05:19
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Sure do mate! Great show
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 07:51
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So is the issue only relating to the aft galley and doors 4?
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 10:05
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The Galleys on these kites are a farce
Not quite.The 330 comes with floor heating under the galley floors as an customer option. . Also available for heating the the flight deck foot rests.
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 11:23
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Problems

The heated pads have been disconnected as they became too hot
The Galleys at doors 2 and 4 are freezing
The temperature in the cabin is unstable and requires continual monitoring
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 13:53
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Get over it, after all its all about the pax experience and as from the feedback from numerous sources its v. positive. Perhaps it gets cold because the crew aren't doing walk throughs or water runs?
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 22:07
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Get over it, after all its all about the pax experience
Well,dizzylizzy you seem to have an alter ego with someone else who's name starts with a 'T'....and something we would expect to hear from the fishbowl when talking about problems at work
However,talking about the pax experience you seem to contradict yourself with some of your previous comments such as....
Also out with carts with bad wheels, its worse than a shopping trolley with bad wheels, hurts my back.
But dizzylizzy...isn't it all about the pax experience??????...

You also seem to comment on everything from tech crew vacancies to flights and loads in and out of all sorts of regional ports then offer to talk about snack on Q bags?????
Skystar, were you on a commercial ticket or staff travel? Surely being on stafftravel you'd have viewed the loads and not done a lizzydizzy and turned up to an oversold, undercatered, late and 25staff listed flight?

I'm more than happy to check some loads on stafftravel on specific routes if you want.
Now you're offering to give staff travel figures and company information to someone who's identity you have no idea....that is of course assuming you are crew and not just another pretender on PPRuNe yourself.
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 23:06
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Crew Health and Wellbeing

The wellbeing and health of CC determines the quality of the passenger experience.
CC who are chilled to the bone are more prone to colds and less able to provide an "exceptional customer experience"
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 23:18
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Bulstrode.

Thanks, you have just verified why Q service is such a crappy experience. I have always wondered how so many can be so disengaged.

Thanks

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