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Chris Higgins 17th Feb 2008 01:55

Aw, C'mon guys! We haven't even seen a picture of the aircraft to see if it's as bad as that. Some years ago I saw a light aircraft that had been handled poorly in a shipping crate and the reconstruction of that aircraft made it one of the strongest and best built trainers at a flying school in Taree. I wouldn't have thought it possible until I saw the finished result. Some skin, fuselage stringers and new rivets here and there as well as some testing for cracks,whether it be dye or x-ray, or whatever they have come up since, the end result will quite possibly be a superior one to the point of OEM.

You can't make a good omelete without cracking an egg once in a while.

RENURPP 17th Feb 2008 02:06

Unless you get up close there appears to be no damage.
It simply looks like a normal 717 .

Chris Higgins 17th Feb 2008 02:18

Then perhaps the ol' saying, "Much a do about nuthin'!" comes to mind. At least they got it planted on the runway and not in the parking lot. C'mon guys, this is not a relevant thread. Let's close it and let the ginger beers to take it from here.

If the plane was that badly damaged, there would have been more in the way of bodily harm. Gimme a break!

MASP 17th Feb 2008 03:35

From the DRW QF Club, on a Top End "Wet" Sunday afternoon, the aircraft in question looks quite serene, and intact (from such a distance), though there are a couple of guys poking about around in the region of its port engine.

fergusdog 17th Feb 2008 05:52

Broken
 
Qf Engineer Said It Has A 18 Degree Bend In Body

Capt Claret 17th Feb 2008 09:23

fergusdog, as one who HAS seen the aircraft, any suggestion of an 18 degree bend is more than fanciful, it's pure bulsh!t.

Lord Flashhart 17th Feb 2008 09:35

fergus is probably referring to the wing sweep lol.

Jabawocky 17th Feb 2008 22:19

18 degrees:eek: I know they build em strong but its likely 18 dgrees would have torn it half off! Sounds like BS to me.

1.8 degrees would be more like it, and that would be expensive enough.:ooh:

I am still amazed some ppruner has not shot a pic of it by now......I think thats the most amazing part of this whole thread.

J

Capn Bloggs 17th Feb 2008 23:09

Nar, he got it wrong, the 18° is the new dihedral! :}:E


I am still amazed some ppruner has not shot a pic of it by now......I think thats the most amazing part of this whole thread.
I've got two, and you're not seeing either!! :E:D:ok:

ITCZ 18th Feb 2008 00:24


Originally Posted by Jabawocky
I am still amazed some ppruner has not shot a pic of it by now......I think thats the most amazing part of this whole thread.

Not so amazing. Two reasons:

1. Its not particularly remarkable to look at. The goddamn thing has been sitting in full view on Bay 9 for almost 2 weeks. No extra security, no screens. It is maybe 30m from the emergency access gate where the plane spotters gather and take 'up close' pics of aircraft on the ramp. There were four 717's parked alongside each other last night. You would be hard pressed to pick which one was the damaged one unless you walked right up to it.

18 degrees? Fark, some people will believe anything!

2. NJS pilots have their faults and their squabbles, but we still have an esprit d' corps. We are not into getting our jollies by posting a pic of a mate's mishap, for the enjoyment of the deadheads, hangers-on, voyeurs and vultures that inhabit this forum.

Capt Claret 18th Feb 2008 00:54

ITCZ



:ok:

Capn Bloggs 18th Feb 2008 00:57


the deadheads, hangers-on, voyeurs and vultures that inhabit this forum
Thanks for the compliment, Darling! :p

ITCZ 18th Feb 2008 01:41


Originally Posted by Bloggs
Thanks for the compliment, Darling! :p

I should say "high proportion of deadheads etc." There is still plenty of gold to be found here amongst the dross!

Jabawocky 18th Feb 2008 08:33

ITCZ,bloggs, clarrie

I agree and commend..........Its just amazing the spotrsters have not had one posted yet.

J:ok:

Ron Jeremy Porn Star 18th Feb 2008 09:20

Inside word...it hit the deck at 970 feet per minute...approx 3.5 g's.

I seem to recall an A340 hitting at similar force in Quito recently...that one was written off..

I've provided some quality info..so quid pro quo..let's see some photos....

RENURPP 18th Feb 2008 09:41

If you want to see a photo go to airliners.com cause thats all it looks like.
Mate its parked on the apron, QF, VB, Jetpox, Tiger and all the GA operators that use the apron like AirNorth, etc see it every day. If there was anything to take a photo of I can assure you some one would have done it by now.
IT LOOKS LIKE A 717 parker on an apron.

Sorry if that spoils your evening. :hmm:

Kransky 18th Feb 2008 11:11


I've provided some quality info..so quid pro quo..let's see some photos....
If your info was so good, why didn't he show you photos. Your a dweeb.

I seem to recall an A340 hitting at similar force in Quito recently...that one was written off..
What would you expect.

Airbus = plastic toy flown by dweebs.:yuk:

Douglas Twinjet from Long Beach, FA, USA = Ships of steel flown by men of iron :ok:

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dodgybrothers 18th Feb 2008 11:29

Long Beach FA eh, Californians will love that. Bag the airbus and Jetstar now, lets just see how many of you brave, what was it, Iron men come a knockin when the bases open up in Darwin and Perth!

Kransky 18th Feb 2008 11:38

Sheyat, I meant to say CA, USA :ugh:

Dontcha aussies know when someone is taking your p!ss? Dodgybrothers, nice of you to offer, I got another made-in-USA ride, getting paid in greenbacks too, so thanks all the same. But I'll sure pass on that invitation to my old friends. Nice to know they will be welcomed when they take up those direct entry commands that will be on offer.

And weren't it those Jetstar girls and boys wrote "38 reasons a 717 is better than a 320" back in 2005?

Later.

Zeke 18th Feb 2008 12:31


Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy Porn Star
I seem to recall an A340 hitting at similar force in Quito recently...that one was written off..

That was at 9ft/sec or 1100ft/mn, (3g). The aircraft was not written off. The fate of the aircraft has not been decided, more than likely it will be repaired.

The hard landing made the lower articulation link of both MLG to break, abrupt derotation of both bogie beams, all thus caused all 4 MLG front wheels to burst. This damaged the the wiring looms of RH an LH boogie proximity sensors.

No fuselage damage. The major damage was to the gear/wheels, wing fuselage fairing, and pylon/engines of engine 1&2. The gear and wheels were replaced on site to move it.

To repair it back to flying condition, they will need all 4 engines looked at, two pylons replaced, and new fairings.

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