Primethius
Re: Why hasn't any of the posters questioned the salary of the Fed Sec especially since as of the redundacies (sic) he is no longer in the employ of the Aircraft Industry? Erm…perhaps because this thread is about the EBA….
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Oh Big M.... well written. sounds like this love in is full of "amazing :mad:ing people":D
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Primethius
re fed sec: try giving up your job and dropping approx 40k per annum and then taking on the role of saviour/big brother/wet nurse/mother for an ungrateful child. Fed sec is doing a great job under difficult circumstances.
Or would you rather he agree to a similar contract to the one the FAAA signed up to? |
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re fed sec: try giving up your job and dropping approx 40k per annum and then taking on the role of saviour/big brother/wet nurse/mother for an ungrateful child. Fed sec is doing a great job under difficult circumstances. Or would you rather he agree to a similar contract to the one the FAAA signed up to? ][/quote] he got the fat qantas pay out and walked into a job,maybe the child is ungrateful because it does not like the direction its going in |
Typical bunch of selfish whingers. How many of you would step up to take on the role of Fed. Sec? I hazard to guess NONE OF YOU would!
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Typical bunch of selfish whingers. How many of you would step up to take on the role of Fed. Sec? I hazard to guess NONE OF YOU would! Primethius, SP has taken the ALAEA in a direction I think we should be proud of, thus far. Whilst I would have liked SP to remain in the employ of Qantas to keep his feet grounded, I believe the position of Fed Sec requires his full attention, we all need to remember, the ALAEA represents LAME's in many businesses. But by all means keep the executive heads out of the clouds, if they should start to float away like the last executive did. Back to the EBA |
Honestly I didn't like him at the start. BUT he has got my support now. Stick with the current line ALAEA. You're doing a good job.
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Have you boys seen the alaea power point presentation?
Go SP !!!!!!!!!! Its about time that we started throwing managements own tactics back at them. Maintain the rage boys, lets show those bastard boys what we have got! I hope M's little tactic of having a warm and fuzzy to get the Dmm's on side won't cloud their judgement and make them forget they are ALAEA members. I remember with pride how the actions of just 1 DMM in PER refusing to sign the awa shoved under his nose (despite pressure from 2 others!!!) sunk M's plans ! Imagine what can happen if we all Stick together!!!! I say to the assn IF PEOPLE BREAK RANKS THEN ITS TIME TO LET THEM FEND FOR THEM SELVES . HOCKEY ONE , A TRIP TO BEXLEY, HOCKEY 2 , EXPULSION. I all to well remember the old days when people became reps to further their own careers, because the company would "look after them" Its time to make a stand for our jobs, our careers and most importantly the safety of our aircraft and the traveling public within |
acslame
Acslame, I agree 100% with your comments regarding expulsion of members that repeatedly defy any upcoming protected industrial action directives from the ALAEA. Anyone trying to duck below the radar on this one should indeed be let go. Its time to see where everyone stands.
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acslame, I take it you have a copy of the presentation, where do we see it? Is it for public consumption?
As for the travelling public, amen to that... Are we safe... god I hope so |
Lets just remember that all lames are not members of the alaea or even union members.they enjoy the benefits but may not support any actions, I would be very carefull around them in case they report me for harassement.
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Surely there are ways to stick together without getting hit up on harrassment charges...
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Have you boys seen the alaea power point presentation? Go SP !!!!!!!!!! |
The ALAEA Presentation has been sent to all on ALAEA mailing list. So if you didnt get it ,fire email off to the association to get on it.
No excuses for not being informed and up to date on whats happening... We are going to be in for a battle ...however enough is enough. Its time to take a stand and fight for what is fair and just... Cheers |
Yep, ditto!
Must have been a few late nights and research, sure it will hit the spot. Now as long as everyone listens... Surely the last 10 years of "we will go offshore" threats will have an effect. Stand up and be counted. |
Where is this ppt? I'm on the email list, not received it and have then logged onto the site - but can't find it. Any directions to find it on the website would be appreciated.
Cheers Clipped |
Also have not received it but am on mailing list.
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FAIR LAME WAGE CLAIM 3% PA. NOT ENOUGH FOR MANAGEMENT ALAEA -QANTAS EBA VIII ALAEA -QANTAS EBA VIII NOT ENOUGH FOR US It’s time to turn the tables
After 10 years watching record profits, record management wages rises and bonuses big enough to buy Sydney waterfront mansions, it’s time that recognition is given to those who have made the airline what it is today.
Why do Qantas Management get more?Executives and Qantas Managers are not protected by Awards and Agreements. They can be fired at any time or removed from theirpositions by the shareholders. We don’t have the same job security. CEO Geoff DixonYour job seems to be safer than ours Mr. Dixon Geoff Dixon With Peter Gregg
Annual Base wage growth is indicated on the graph to the left. Mr Dixon’s average FAR wage increase over 5 years = 8.8 % pa Mr Gregg’s average FAR wage increase over 5 years = 12 % paFixed Annual Remuneration Increases for QF CEO and CFOFixed Annual Remuneration Increases for QF CEO and CFO A position outside Qantas worth $70,000 in 2003 with average wages applied now earns $84,649 pa A LAME position within Qantas worth $70,000 in 2003 with 3% wages applied now earns $78,784 paSo How do we Fare in the Scheme of ThingsSo How do we Fare in the Scheme of ThingsDon’t be fooled by management who will say that you also get a levelevery 4 years. The average Australian worker also goes up grades or seniority to earn more money over time. The average wages and LAME grade structure both take into account the fact that workers retire at the top and get replaced by new lower paid staff. They want them unlimited. Full time jobs could be declared redundant and those who didn’t want to leave could be offered jobs under part time or casual conditions.Casuals/Part timersXPTCourt Case and get paid as a Qantas LAME. Newly employedLAMEscould be paid asAMEs. ExistingLAMEscould be retrenched then offered jobs asAMEsif they didn’t want to leave. Qantas want this case written into the disputes procedure directing Commissioners to apply the XPT principles to all decisions of management prerogative. To put the XPT case simply –management can do what they want to restructure the workforce for LAMEDefinitionWhat They Didn’t Tell You on TheirRoadshowsWhat They Didn’t Tell You on TheirRoadshows Qantas want to change the way you qualify to work operational requirements. This could be the transformation of full time to casual employment or less LAMEs and more AMEs. Current EBA conditions would make it extremely difficult for such a restructure to occur. Additionally there are tight limits on the number of Part timeLAMEsallowed. The actual Part timers employed has rarely met these limits but this may just be a false sense of security that has led to many members believing that they don’t even want additional Part time employees. The current offer on the table has asked for unlimited Part timers and unlimited casuals. The tools would then be available to carry out a massive restructure that could change the face of our industry forever. The ALAEA is opposed to thesechanges. Destroying our Future. What the new Clauses Could do to you!Destroying our Future. What the new Clauses Could do to you!This stage could be declared by the airline. Contracts could be further slashed and mass redundancies declared.With only limited full timeLAMEsrequired the airline may offer CR or alternative employment in their newly restructured AME heavy business.XPTXPTLAME to AMELAME to AMERestructureRestructureThis is the enabling clause that prevents the ALAEA having any say on internal restructuring. So What is This Industrial Action?So What is This Industrial Action? The actions proposed are protected and legalThe vote is invalid unless 50% of ballot papers are returnedFrom the ballot papers returned 50% + 1 need to be infavourIf successful actions would need to commence within 30 daysThe ALAEA do not intend to disrupt passengers and members over Christmas/New Year Qantas will be threatening members if they stand together. Theywill isolate individuals and ask them to dofavoursso that the Qantas agenda can be achieved. The future of every member is in jeopardy if Qantas get what they want. So What Will This Get Us?So What Will This Get Us?The ALAEA will continue to negotiate for a fair wage outcome andthe removal of unfair new clauses designed to destroy our future. This is about being taken seriously when we negotiate and not being treated with contempt as we have been in the past. Because the actionsare legal it is every members duty to stand together to ensure that our future is secured by fighting for a fair EBA outcome that doesn’t pave the way to the downfall of the LAME at Qantas. DoDoNOTNOTBREAKBREAKRANKRANK They Said I Would Lose My Back Pay…. You will only lose yourbackpayif you agree to it.Consider how much you would lose if you were offered the choice between redundancy or a part time AME position.…..and I Was Threatened With My Job.That’s why it is important to stand together. If your workmate is threatened and you stand with him, we are all safe. If any member succumbs to management threats they do so to make themselves look good but as we all know management come and go. Your next boss is likely to be one of the other 1600 members that you had betrayed. The decision to take Industrial Action has not been taken lightly. Ultimately it was made by the Federal Executive after much member feedback following the misleading managementroadshows. Legal advice and Media concerns have and will continue to beaddressed with professional assistance where required. Federal Executive members and ALAEA union Reps will always be available to discuss any member concerns and address problems as they arise. The following pages will answer a number of questions that have already been raised. Managing The Action
Authorised Steve Purvinas ALAEA Federal Secretary
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Casn we please edit the post and make the font all the same size, I believe if you highlight it all and then just click on size 2 the bold stuff will still be bold.
So hard to read. Are there any pictures...? I like pictures especially Powerpoint files. |
Got my email this afternoon.
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