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7378FE 1st Jul 2008 07:09

V Australia could lease some of their 773's to QF with Tech crew:ok:

maggotdriver 4th Jul 2008 10:56

They're a coming boys, they're a coming!:cool:

Mstr Caution 4th Jul 2008 11:18

Heard a rumour (quite appropriate for pprune) that half dozen or so on the way by years end! oh yeah, mainline ops too. Short of capacity with high oil prices, go figure!
MC:8

Taildragger67 4th Jul 2008 12:05

By year's end?
 
That's less than 6 months away. I'm skeptical of such a number joining within such a short time frame. Unless it was a complete ACMI package, it's fair to ask how anyone would go from go-to-whoa getting a new type integrated - training techies and CC, maint, deciding configs & interiors... I think there's rather more than could be done in less than 6 months. Manufacturing lead times for things other than the airframes, if nothing else, would seem to be too tight.

One or two chartered airframes can happen and has been done before, but actually bringing 6 of a new type into the fleet... six months is awfully quick. I hope we do see long thin Rats but 6 months...

OK, let's throw it open - could it be done? How long after order did the 330s turn up?

Farnborough kicks off on Monday week (14th) - I guess we could hear something then (if it is going to happen).

Dropt McGutz 4th Jul 2008 12:12

They'll probably be wet leased.

Wingspar 4th Jul 2008 12:18

Still waiting for something to come out of "the most important board meeting in years"!

mrpaxing 5th Jul 2008 00:05

word has it that
 
BA has signed up for spare 777 from boeing. waiting for the announcmement

Going Boeing 5th Jul 2008 21:05

Hey maggotdriver, do you have any more details?

Sunfish 7th Jul 2008 08:53

Rumour is that AA have cancelled about ten 777-300 slots and QF and BA are in contention for some of them (787 compensation - seen that type of thing before). QF on a one year ramp up to get some (or all of them ), and it isn't going to be deeply pre planned.

That's all I know of the rumour. But if it's true, it's going to be messy, and staff are going to have to pull together to make it happen........Which is difficult under the current CEO.

Skystar320 7th Jul 2008 10:03

Rumour has it QF are interested in purchasing 4 x 777-200's from an Asian carrier

2dotsright 7th Jul 2008 11:23

2dots
 
I heard that J* have a bunch of B777 rated pilots working there including 'check and trng' and management experience on type
Seems that if QF got hold of some 777's on short notice that J* could have them fired up and crewed in record time. Just a thought but makes sense doesn't it.

MUNT 7th Jul 2008 13:23


Rumour has it QF are interested in purchasing 4 x 777-200's from an Asian carrier
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-777-200s.html

Interesting, though 200s aren't really a suitable 400 replacement...

Taildragger67 7th Jul 2008 16:39

mrpaxing,

Again, next Monday morning would be the logical time to hear something like that.

But this is aviation so logic plays no part...

MUNT,

Might be if you're looking to trim capacity growth (especially if they're available PDQ). Better to park a fully-amortized, nearly 20-year-old 744 which, with current fares, you'd only get 80% full, and put a 10-year-old twin (if -ER) on the same runs at nearer 100% loads. You could put the same number of premium seats in the 772ER as with the 744 and just drop the numbers in Cattle; suddenly you're almost profitable again.

longreach 7th Jul 2008 22:20

Can't be right as AA don't have or have never had any 777-300 slots. They are a 772 operator only.

gas path 8th Jul 2008 16:41


Rumour has it QF are interested in purchasing 4 x 777-200's from an Asian carrier
Those China Southern A/C are 'A' market airframes therefore no CWT. That limits their range somewhat. So as already stated not an ideal 744 replacement:8

hope you don't mind a northern hemisphere type butting in!

Skystar320 9th Jul 2008 00:04

No I dont mind, but a normal 200 can be converted to a 200ER without much doing? I.e needs uprated engines / landing gear / internal fuel tanks / possible mod to the FMC but a easy patch should do the trick and get cert by Boeing

Easy way to get 777's in the fleet, by buying second hand aircraft and jump the que while waiting for new ones?

Secondly, how many 743's were operating domestic? Oooops, have I spilt the beans, bugger!

Offchocks 9th Jul 2008 02:02

"Those China Southern A/C are 'A' market airframes therefore no CWT. That limits their range somewhat. So as already stated not an ideal 744 replacement."

Actually they would be a perfect replacement for the old classics on the MEL-PER-SYD run...........however I can't see QF getting 777s.

Skystar320 9th Jul 2008 03:06

ahh but how long is a piece of string these days?

MUNT 9th Jul 2008 03:22

Taildragger67
 
QF has a 772a in the form of the a333.

The 330 is perfect for perth, new aircraft, international product and a capacity reduction.

The 777 would be most useful in replacing the older 400s on the longer sectors, i.e. FRA and JNB. But 200s, particularly As, wouldn't really be a suitable alternative. Perhaps the 200ER or LR at off-peak periods. Loads for the moment are in excess of a 200s capacity. 300s on the other hand, are a different story altogether. Then again, i'm not paid to know...

Skystar320 9th Jul 2008 03:33

obvious you havn't flew in the A330 then....... Give me a 777


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