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Howard Hughes 15th May 2007 07:03

After that announcement, I feel sorry for those who will be genuinely sick on that day...:hmm:

Reason 15th May 2007 13:19

Politics!!!
 
Spread the word people...

It's in all of our best interests - John Howard must go!!!

Capt Kremin 15th May 2007 14:23

Hopefully this will concentrate the minds of the Jetstar pilots who mistakenly think that AIPA is the enemy, in the right direction.

toolish 15th May 2007 23:41

They cant get capt on a 3 year deal is that telling those os Capt something. For goodness sake if you come back on an AWA ask for a lot more than I am getting, I am sure they will give it to you dont waste your oppotunity like we as a group have.

I hope all in Jetstar have FINALLY taken off the blinkers.

As far as AIPA is concerned I will say it again when they can legally cover us I am sure more will join.

Bazzamundi 16th May 2007 03:21

One has to wonder why Qantas is spending so much money in the courts trying to prevent AIPA representing anyone other than mainline crew. Perhaps that alone should tell us something.

The Jetstar AWA scenario is quite possibly going to happen with QF in the not too distant future. Perhaps now is a good time to team up and together implement a strategy to fight the issue. Can't do us any harm. Surely that would be the biggest nightmare for QF management. Give them some headaches for once.

Lets work together people.

Angle of Attack 16th May 2007 12:14

LOL some of you are damn wimps, anyone saying your gonna get done for having a sick day are complete fools, whether there is a supposed plan or not, if I want a sick day I will get it with a medical certificate. Anyone that says otherwise well take it up with my doctor. If you obtain a medical certificate the issue is between the employer and the doctor, period!, if there is an issue. And as anyone knows you can get a medical certificate piece of piss, what doctor is gonna say "No I don't believe you are sick you should go to work!" Because of the crap liability society we are in, so why not use it to your advantage? haha!! Anyone can get a medical certificate, and I would love to see someone done in court for going sick with a certificate! Bring it on, it will never succeeed.

Even while being screwed so many are heartless wimps, I can't beleive it, that is why this Howard Government is happening.. think about it.

Parc-Ratstej 16th May 2007 12:54

Hi doc,not feelin too flash..bit worried about my carreer..dont think i've slept for two nights! not sure if im fit to operate tonight?
Kachingggg...instant medical certificate...easy eh!

FlexibleResponse 16th May 2007 13:22


I’m with Ultralight here. Whats wrong with AWA’s. Mine is working great.
With a wide body captain salary of $147,809 and “cruise FO” on $88,685.4 your EBA’s are awesome.
Ill pay $33,000 for that
I think you would earn more in a coal mine these days?

mexicomel 17th May 2007 10:26

You guys are missing the point, Jetstar is a subsidiary of Qantas, it was established by Qantas management to improve their bottom line by reducing terms & conditions utilising the current IR laws put in place by the Liberal government. Fortuitously it also reduced union control of the work place.
The introduction of AWA's is a logical extension of this and there is no way under the existing laws to prevent it. You can guarantee that they will be introduced at Qantas very soon.
Your argument should be with management not with other pilots. You guys are your own worst enemy!!:ugh:

Angle of Attack 17th May 2007 13:35

More like, I have had a sore throat and fatigued the last few days, I think I have some sort of bug, but I feel better now, I need a medical Certificate for XXdate until xxxdate. Regardless CASA regulations require that if you feel unfit for duty it is an offence to work, pure and simple. And no doctor is going to deny that, never, ever.

Mexicomel, yeah exactly, there is a simple way to delete AWA's, get rid of Howard, we need a change every now and then , and not get stuck in the same rut like an old 4wd track.


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