Anyone know why there was an Alliance Fokker parked at the Qantas domestic terminal in Perth today?

What's with the skid marks on runway 21 at Perth? Either they were about to run out of runway whilst landing on 03 or they landed a long way of the centreline on 21 with some very heavy braking.

It did PH-KG-PH chartered to QF. Dunno if the super hairdryers were all busted or whether it as a special. It looked like a kiddy car parked in amoungst the real jets...:} Those modded speys put out such a loud squeal: very annoying.

That's the Alliance drivers coming to grips with the 35kt crosswinds from the hills...:ok:

b scale
 

Talking about b scale i made 80 grand flying a king air i would take less as an FO with NJ if i could get to the city.

Anything to do with the other KG flight canx earlier this week?

Apparently the (big) blue and yellow mob have been doing charters themselves; believe they nicked a blue Fokker the other week because they'd used theirs on charter, and needed another for RPT...?

The southern apron sure is looking crowded these days, however you put it!!

BB

Well Capn Bloggs, you said...
I know of at least five who have been recruited in the last two weeks. Yes, on a B scale, pay for endorsement via salary sacrifice and salary about 80% of current FO salary.
Happy Days.

Apparently most guys interviewed in the 1st week got a gig. 2nd & 3rd week still not advised although probably a hold file for some.

Definetly a "B" scale but salary sacrifice not as much as 1st thought, (B717).

Anybody heard/know of more?

RC

The original plan was to salary sacrifice half the endorsement over one year. But there's been further discussion since then, maybe they changed it.

Three more that I know of going to NJS. Around $61K first year although I believe the AWA is not approved as yet.
BAE146 endorsement around $7500 which is salary sacrificed over three years AND a bond.

icarus 2001
 

What sort of experience did these guys have?

Icarus2001

As I understand it, under little jonny's work choices, employers are delegated to approve their own AWA. I have also been told that the AWA that is lodged with the OEA is not necessarily the AWA that the employee signed. Of course, this loop hole wouldn't be abused by any employer!

$7.5 is a cheap endorsement, about 1/4 the actual price I'd guess.

Bendo

Not sure what the latest recruitment policies are but historically some people have been employed with just CPL, most though with an ATP. Some have some twin time, others have had much turbine time. It hasn't been unknown to train a pilot who is leaping from single pilot piston IFR to his/her first multi crew/turbine/jet experience.

NJS Interviews
 

Whats the general consensus on the time between interview and news( ie Job offer, hold file or "No thanks have a nice life" letter).

I know two guys interviewed in the 1st week who have course dates ( B717). Have not heard of anyone else from 2nd or 3rd weeks getting any news yet.

RC

Cruzio

A friend had his interview and two days later was offered job on 146. So I suppose anytime from two days to three weeks. Have any of the new recruits been given an AWA to sign yet and if so have they shown it to one of their mates at NJS to compare the actual conditions. Am interested to find out.

Nig not nog:)

8(?) newbies start the 146 course on monday. Coming from far and wide across our wide brown land.

Guessing the AWA will be the first order of the day's business. Will be very interesting reading.

Better bring some tissues guys and girls. Still it'll be better than a GA contract won't it?

Sure, but it's not GA! :yuk:

"This country's STUFFED!"
Darryl Kerrigan :ok:

should be 65,500 or more, $7500 for endorsment then everything else as per current employees.

Its $15,000 part payment of endorsement cost. Salary sacrifice $7500 each year for first two years.

Average Australian wage is now $1,053 per week, or $54,000 per annum. (Based on ABS data in Average Weekly Ordinary Time Earnings table).

NJS proposal $61k - $7.5k = $53,500.

enurpp,

Should it be anything?? Why should you have to pay for the endorsement/salary sacrifice or otherwise?

Yes, yes I know this eternal argument but at the end of the day why should one have to pay??

Out of interest did you pay for your endorsement at NJS?

b.

boocs
 

What are you on?:rolleyes:
Where did I suggest you should pay?
I suggested some figures that have been given to me that appear to be incorrect. (maybe)
I don't believe you should have to pay and no I didn't pay for mine.

A collegue from my company recently got a start on the B717. No AWA yet, just an outline of conditions.

He mentioned $ 57k a year AFTER salary sacrifice. ( That still being $ 7500)

That would make RENURPP's figures basically correct!

I have not heard yet the 146 conditions, slightly less I believe but all apparently still being finalised.

RC

This feral disgusting joke of a company started the slide of jet pilot T&Cs in Oz, and they're at it yet again.

The clowns running that show are clueless, delusional gits. But I must say any bonehaed that takes this job now, on this pay, AND pays for an endorsement on an obsolete jet, AND takes a bond, is doing the biggest disservice imaginable to aviation in Australia. But I'm sure within the next two or three posts there'll be yet another idiot asking for more info on the job so as they can stick their grubby hands up as well.

Thank God I was able to move on from the nightmare that was my NJS experience

Don't hold back Trevor, say what you really think.