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ATC Staff Shortage set to bite
A little birdy tells me that ATC staff are going to stop working on their days off from next week.
Some impact expected at the major cities. Apparently constant overtime is all that has been keeping the airspace open for quite some time. Funny - I thought I read about Airservices getting an International Award for being the best ANSP. Maybe they meant the best for their profits! |
Looking forward to Tobzalp chomping into Uncommonsense...
Was that the biting you meant?? |
TIBA procedures took place north of Sydney yesterday afternoon due to staff shortage and noone coming in on their (scarce) day off.
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TIBA procedures took place north of Sydney yesterday afternoon due to staff shortage and noone coming in on their (scarce) day off.
Expect to see more of it I suspect and possibly a tower or two closing in the middle of the night. ASA management would rather run a constsant overtime line than put on more staff ( and the current recruitment will barely cover retirements in the next 5 years) and never mind about Fatigue Management, Balance of Work and Family etc. |
Sounds like perfect justification for a pay rise fellas.
Low supply and high demand = a deserved salary increase. |
Yes, I have also heard the rumours.
But I would be interested to see how it gets 'spun' by the media/pr types, considering the rumour is that people just want to have their days off. What will be more interesting is when the protected period for the new Certified Agreement commences in late October. The way things have been going, one can only wonder. |
Heard about a couple of guys in Melbourne who arranged a golf day many moons ago. One rang in sick to be there, but the other took the emergency duty so wasn't there anyhow. Much gnashing of teeth.
Cryptic, anonymus message in my inbox at work about this today. Can it triumph over greed/diligence as shown above? Can it compare to the national day of inaction of last 25NOV??? I have not had a day off without a phone call for 3 weeks. |
I know of a couple of great guys who were just turned down for the ATC role... shame really. Are they too fussy or are there not enough GOOD applicants? What's the pay like in comparison to the rest of the western world? (PM's welcome).
Cheers. |
I had a few days off with the flu recently an was actually called to come in as a morning shift to be relief for the night shift that I was actually sick for.:* There was even a recent instance of someone getting stood down due to a naughty type thing then stood up then sent home early to be able to come back 8 hours later to cover an unfillable night shift. It may be $65 an hour for normal time but when you never get days off you can't spend it.
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Kaptin,
perhaps your right - because what you wrote is in print and on the interent, somebody might actually believe it! |
Pay and conditions are certainly not in line with the rest of the world. But despite that, I know a controller from overseas (with all the requirements, Oz Residency etc. and 10 years experience, 5 years enroute-radar too) who wanted to join Airservices last year. Went thru the application and interview stages and was finally turned down.
Shortage of controllers, slow training... but still reject an experienced controller who only needed the "Short Course" to start work? Hmmm, doesn't add up. Anyone in the know of the current situation for controllers with prior experience from overseas? |
I think that unfortunately when it comes to hiring in AsA, the KPIs are king. People get bonuses through the normal route of hiring and they will not stray from it even though the experience base is getting less and less and a few experienced controllers would go down very well. Typical of a company with 'business units'. Side note, we got two kiwis last year and they started on a pay scale not much above the brand new guys. As they got redundancy from their old employer, it added up the same but for anyone wanting to come from elsewhere (I know a few) they just are not going to take the massive pay cut to come and work for a bunch of c(_)nts.
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According to management, Brisbane Centre is actually overstaffed!! (go figure.)
That's why they don't need controllers from O/S. Its funny how they are overstaffed, and yet have to relly on overtime to keep things running. I hope the place comes to a grinding halt. On another note, I also heard that QF are asking for compensation for when airspace is TIBA. They argue, why should we pay for a service that wasn't provided. |
So is the required overtime because there are positions which are unstaffed because there are not enough ATC's or is it to cover people going sick etc?
An earlier post said that someone gets called up one their days off to come into work. To me that sounds like someone has gone sick at short notice. If you get called up to come to work on days off surely you can just say "no, I am busy". If you say "yes, I'll come to work" then that is your choice and you get paid accordingly. I'm sure some people would love the extra cash. What's the big deal...just say "no thanks" and head off to the beach. |
Overtime is rostered, ie, they knew it was a blank shift and have offered it to all as overtime. If it does not get filled, or someone calls in sick, this shift is an ED, or Emergency Duty. That's how it works.
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I too got told last year by a HR lady with the initials that resemble NH that Brisbane Centre was "overstaffed". I was on a doggo so called the controller on TOPS and when he stopped laughing he told me the truth. He in fact wanted to go to Melb centre on transfer but was unreleasable due to lack of staff. So much for being "overstaffed".
It seems though that HR for ATM are concentrating their efforts on recruiting opposition controllers (ie RAAF) for Melbourne Centre and stating that Brisbane is "not available". Disregarding experienced controllers, whether they be from overseas or the RAAF seems rediculous, but then again it doesnt seem that the college has the capability to train these people anyway, whether it be a "short" course or a normal one. |
Baileys,
I believe the OT was to cover unplanned absences, but now it is often to cover planned absences as well - or what might be called shortfalls. How the 'overstaffing' statement can be made? I don't have the answer. |
There is a formula used by AsA to work out staffing requirements. This formula takes into account training, rec. leave, etc. It does not take into account sick leave or long service leave. This formula indicates that BN Centre is actually overstaffed??
When training comes up that has not been planned for, eg. Option 3 in NAS, this then means a lot of overtime to both fill controller seats and also train controllers. There is no surplus of controllers. Also, if we go through a period of high sick leave, say in July/August, the Flu season, any surplus is quickly accounted for, and ED and Overtime is used to man consoles. There is little, if no "fat" in ATC manning to account for such contingencies without relying on overtime or EDs. The ATC college is also understaffed. I recently visited, and the guys there tried to shut the door and keep me there. That's how desperate they are for instructors! BN Centre runs on the bones of it's arse. Every roster has been trimmed of any excess staff, and overtime and ED is used to fill shortfalls. Consequently, if a lot of controllers go sick at about the same time ( and this does happen from time to time), then you'll see airspace go TIBA. |
It's true.
AsA are hanging out the "no vacancy" sign at present. Qantas might want to take that into account next time they are TIBA? It's not hard to work out whats going on when the website says there are vacancies for trainees (who will be years away from FPC), yet experienced controllers are not required. |
BN is over, yet has troubles filling shifts, ML is 27 under using the same formula; no wonder we are sick to death of working ot and eds.
Not so easy to say "no thanks" Baileys; we all know what it's like to be left without support at the console; last thing done is slow traffic rates; so you just cope with more traffic per head. It's sh!tful. When you get the call at home, 'you are our last chance', often permiates the tone of the call. You also understand what it's like to be left as a single individual or two individuals when the normal number is 5 staff on duty; for a particular area. Is this miss management or deliberate... We all know that it is cheaper to fill shifts with ot and ed than have a fulltime body sitting there just in case. Unlike an airliner if a tech crew body doesn't front the plane doesn't go; if you have a drop out or two on the console 'team' then it's just less breaks and mulitple single sectors (freq's) combined onto one position. Of course there are 'contingency plans' but these are universally ignored, mostly because the ATCs don't know what's in them and the managers don't want to flag to higher managers about the reasons for these contingencies being enacted. If the ATC actually make a point of not comming to work on their days off the system will be at breaking point quickly; because at present the whole structure rely's on the greedy ATC mentality of chasing the money; even if that's not the reason most give up their day off; see above about not letting mates down and pressures applied. |
The numbers must say otherwise. Has anyone actually seen the figures and formula used to do the staffing calculation?
I can suggest a number of ways to say 'no thanks'. Firstly just say 'no'. If you are busy - you are busy and that's it. Let the greedy ones take the money. When they get sick of it - let it go TIBA. That's why there are contingency plans. Who cares if you are the last one left to come in. I wouldn't think coercion would be endorsed. You are entitled to have a life - that is why you go to work. If the figures say the staffing is OK and the airspace never closes it is easy to justify that everything is OK - maybe it is. There is not much EVIDENCE to say otherwise. Blame the complaining on the complaining ATC's - industry will believe it - next thing they will want a huge payrise. The Department of Transport and major airlines would not tolerate systematic airspace closures. If the system is as broken as people are indicating then let it show - stop holding it together at the expense of your life. Sometimes complete inaction is all it takes. If you try inaction and everything still rolls on - good, it mustn't be that bad after all and at least you will enjoy your life. |
Observed in the NOTAMS today:
C1791/05 ATS IN NORTH WESTERN QUEENSLAND ARE SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE STAFF SHORTAGE THIS SHALL AFFECT THE FLW FREQ: FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 125.4 BIRDSVILLE FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 122.1 LONGREACH FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 118.8 JACKSON FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 124.8 CHARLEVILLE FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 122.3 EMERALD FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 126.0 ROMA FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 135.3 MT ALMA FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 118.95 ST GEORGE FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 123.9 MT MOWBULLAN FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 125.7 MORNINGTON ISLAND FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 118.6 NORMANTON FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 122.4 MOUNT ISA FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 123.95 KYNUNA FIA BRISBANE CENTRE 119.8 CHEVIOT HILLS ATC SER ARE NOT AVBL IN CLASS E AIRSPACE DIRECTED TRAFFIC SER IS NOT AVBL IN CLASS G AIRSPACE DIRECTED TRAFFIC ADVISORY INFO SER IS NOT AVBL IN CLASS E AND G AIRSPACE FLW PROC ADVISE: TRAFFIC INFO BCST PROC (TIBA) AS DETAILED IN AIP GEN 3.3 AND ICAO ANNEX 11 SHALL BE USED. TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED AT ALL TIMES. IN-FLIGHT INFO, SARTIME AND EMERG ALERTING SER AVBL ON REQ FROM FLIGHTWATCH. PILOTS CONSIDERING OPR IN THIS AIRSPACE SHOULD CTC THE BRISBANE OPR MANAGER BY TEL ON +61 7 3866 3224 FOR FURTHER INFO. AIRSPACE: YBBB/YMMM/COOPER S26 13.3 E138 23.4 / S23 10.0 E137 00.8 / S23 10.0 E140 46.0 / S22 08.4 E142 57.9 / S21 43.7 E143 53.7 / S21 43.5 E145 25.9 / S22 01.3 E145 47.8 / S22 58.0 E145 52.5 / S25 50.7 E147 30.0 / S29 08.1 E147 42.9 / S29 20.4 E146 46.7 / S29 00.0 E146 32.0 / S29 00.0 E143 30.0 / S26 13.5 E138 23.4 VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-FL245 YBBB/DAWSON A S22 23.7 E147 26.3 / S22 47.5 E147 32.2 / S23 20.0 E148 00.0 / S23 14.7 E148 51.3 / S23 36.6 E148 43.1 / S26 41.3 E151 01.9 / S26 01.9 E151 28.4 / S25 57.1 E151 22.0 / S24 38.2 E150 20.5 / S22 48.7 E149 09.4 / S22 52.8 E148 17.7 / S22 33.0 E147 44.8 / S22 23.7 E147 26.3 VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-FL180 YBBB/DAWSON B S21 51.2 E145 35.4 / S21 26.9 E145 46.5 / S21 43.5 E146 06.9 / S22 23.7 E147 26.3 / S22 47.5 E147 32.2 / S23 20.0 E148 00.0 / S23 14.7 E148 51.3 / S23 36.6 E148 43.0 / S26 41.8 E151 01.9 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 120NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S27 21.9 E153 08.3(BRISBANE/DME) TO S28 29.9 E151 16.5 / S29 00.0 E149 00.0 / S29 08.1 E147 42.9 / S25 50.7 E147 30.0 / S22 58.0 E145 52.5 / S22 01.3 E145 47.8 / S21 51.2 E145 35.4 VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-FL245 YBBB/YMMM/BARKLY S19 05.0 E142 50.0 / S18 17.8 E143 50.5 / S18 34.6 E144 46.1 / THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 120NM RAD CENTRED ON S19 14.7 E146 45.5 (TOWNSVILLE/DME) TO S20 11.9 E144 53.6 / S21 26.9 E145 46.5 / S21 51.2 E145 35.4 / S21 43.5 E145 25.9 / S21 43.7 E143 53.7 / S22 08.4 E142 57.9 / S23 10.0 E140 46.3 / S23 10.0 E137 00.8 / S22 17.8 E136 38.1 / S21 51.5 E136 22.4 / S20 43.9 E136 14.0 VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-FL245 YBBB/YMMM/PRAWN S15 42.2 E137 12.9 / S15 08.6 E138 20.7 / S14 56.5 E138 52.6 / S15 00.0 E140 00.0 / S15 30.4 E141 43.5 / S16 03.1 E143 16.7 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 150NM RAD CENTRED ON S16 51.0 E145 44.6 (CAIRNS/DME) TO S16 57.9 E143 08.4 / S18 17.8 E143 50.5 / S19 05.0 E142 50.0 / S20 01.9 E141 07.7 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 100NM RAD CENTRED ON S20 39.8 E139 29.1(MT ISA/DME) TO S19 22.5 E140 36.9 / S19 05.4 E140 05.2 / S19 01.2 E137 40.3 / S17 20.3 E137 09.3 / S15 42.2 E137 12.9 VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-FL245. SFC TO FL245 FROM 08 280600 TO 08 280830 |
Another one from today:
ATS C1792/05 ATS IN N NEW SOUTH WALES SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE STAFF SHORTAGE AIRSPACE APRX BOUNDED BY THE POSITIONS 10E MOUNT MCQUOID, BRISBANE/MELBOURNE FIR BOUNDARY, DONIC, 30E WILLIAMTOWN, 30E COFFS HARBOUR, 20SW POINT LOOKOUT, 20E MOUNT SANDON, 7E SINGLETON, 10E MOUNT MCQUOID. BRISBANE CENTRE 132.35 BERRICO BRISBANE CENTRE 130.1 BERRICO BRISBANE CENTRE 125.7 MOUNT HEATON BRISBANE CENTRE 120.55 BERRICO. ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE. DIRECTED TRAFFIC ADVISORY INFO SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS E AND G AIRSPACE. DIRECTED TRAFFIC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS G AIRSPACE. ADS/CPDLC LOGON YBBB SER NOT AVBL IN THIS AIRSPACE. THE FLW PROCEDURES APPLY: TRAFFIC INFO BCST PROCEDURES (TIBA) AS DETAILED IN AERONAUTICAL INFORMATION PUBLICATION GEN 3.3 AND ICAO ANNEX 11 SHALL BE USED. TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED AT ALL TIMES. IN-FLIGHT INFO, SARTIME AND EMERG ALERTING SERS ARE AVBL ON REQ FM FLIGHTWATCH. PILOTS CONSIDERING OPR IN THIS AIRSPACE SHOULD CTC THE BRISBANE OPS MANAGER BY TELEPHONE ON +61 7 3866 3224 FOR FURTHER INFO. LATERAL LIMITS: S30 41.9 E152 02.3 S30 09.9 E153 38.5 S30 40.3 E153 31.8 S32 53.0 E152 26.5 S33 30.0 E151 54.5 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 45.0NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S33 56.6 E151 10.8 (SYDNEY/DME) TO S33 12.0 E151 19.3 S32 47.3 E151 24.2 S32 36.0 E151 23.8 S30 41.9 E152 02.3. VERTICAL LIMITS: FL245 - FL600. LATERAL LIMITS: S30 41.9 E152 02.3 S30 09.9 E153 38.5 S30 40.3 E153 31.8 S32 53.0 E152 26.5 S33 30.0 E151 54.5 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 45.0NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S33 56.6 E151 10.8 (SYDNEY/DME) TO S33 12.0 E151 19.3 S32 47.3 E151 24.2 S32 36.0 E151 23.8 S32 27.5 E151 06.0 S31 26.8 E151 33 .1 S30 41.9 E152 02.3. VERTICAL LIMITS: FL125 - F245. LATERAL LIMITS: S30 41.9 E152 02.3 S30 49.1 E152 20.5 S30 46.1 E152 25.2 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 45.0NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S30 19.2 E153 07.0 (COFFS HARBOUR/DME) TO S31 04.2 E153 05.9 S31 09.3 E153 05.8 S31 08.1 E153 18.4 S32 53.0 E152 26.5 S32 50.1 E152 04.0 S32 40.8 E151 34.2 S32 36.0 E151 23.8 S32 27.5 E151 06.0 S31 26.8 E151 33.0 S30 41.9 E152 02.3. VERTICAL LIMITS: A085 - FL125. LATERAL LIMITS: S33 30.1 E151 54.5 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 45.0NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S33 56.6 E151 10.8 (SYDNEY/DME) TO S33 14.3 E150 52.1E S32 27.5 E151 06.0 S31 26.8 E151 33.1 S30 41.9 E152 02.3 S30 49 .1 E152 20 .5 S30 40.8 E152 33.6 THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 36.0NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S30 19.2 E153 007.0 (COFFS HARBOUR/DME) TO S30 55.2 E153 06.1 S31 09.3 E153 05.8 S31 08.1 E153 18.4 S32 53.0 E152 26 .5. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC TO A085. FROM 08 281300 TO 08 281830 GRAPHICAL DEPICTION OF THE AIRSPACE AVAILABLE AT [url]HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/NDMAPA3A.PDF |
Interestingly I am actually available for 4 of those frequencies and have not been called. Seems someone has dropped the ball. Too late though as I have had a wine.
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Crikey.com today ;
7. Unsubstantiated tips & rumours The air traffic control system in Australia has started closing down bit by bit each day and night due to lack of qualified Air Traffic Controllers. Tonight (Sunday) airspace between Darwin, Brisbane and Mount Isa is uncontrolled, and also between Sydney and Tamworth and Coffs Harbour. Government controlled executives will not hire more controllers because their personal remuneration packages (bonuses) depend upon reducing overheads (staff). The few new controllers that have been employed are too few, too late. The crisis we all expected and warned of has started this weekend |
From AirServices AIS/MET today:
ATS C2330/05 DIRECTED TRAFFIC INFORMATION, RADAR ADVISORY AND SAR ALERTING SERVICES WITHIN THE FOLLOWING CLASS G AIRSPACE MAY BE RESTRICTED KEY POINTS AERODROMES AFFECTED: BALLIDU, BARROW IS, CARNARVON, GERALDTON, KARRATHA, KALGOORLIE, LEONORA, LEARMONTH, LEINSTER, LAVERTON, MEEKATHARRA, MOUNT KEITH, MOUNT MAGNET, NEWMAN, ONSLOW, PARABURDOO, PORT HEDLAND, TELFER, WILUNA DUE STAFF SHORTAGE YMMM/MENZIES YMMM/NEWMAN YMMM/YALGOO LATERAL LIMITS: S26 50.5 E112 14.1, S27 45.0 E112 22.5, S30 00.0 E112 43.9, S29 59.4 E115 33.8,S30 38.8 E115 35.5, THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 80.0 NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S31 56.7 E115 57.6 (PH/DME) TO S31 08.2 E117 12.1,S29 38.8 E119 23.6, S30 09.8 E120 00.0, S31 43.1 E120 00.0, S31 27.2 E121 23.9,S31 16.0 E123 32.0, S28 03.8 E124 13.9, S26 35.3 E121 59.1, S26 00.0 E122 25.1, S26 00.0 E122 25.1, S24 50.0 E123 15.9, S23 26.5 E124 14.9, S20 15.6 E121 13.5,S18 58.0 E120 03.0, S17 52.8 E118 21.6, THEN ALONG THE MINOR ARC OF A CIRCLE OF 150.0 NM RADIUS CENTRED ON S20 22.6 E118 37.2 (PD/DME) TO S19 34.4 E116 06.4, S19 30.6 E113 31.4, S21 50.0 E111 30.0, S23 32.3 E111 44.6, S26 27.9 E112 10.6, S26 50.5 E112 14.1 VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - BASE OF CTA. FREQUENCIES: 118.4, 118.6, 118.95, 121.2, 122.1, 122.4, 122.6, 123.4, 124.8, 125.7, 125.9. CLASS G PROCEDURES APPLY, BROADCASTS ARE TO BE MADE ON AREA VHF, MBZ AND CTAF FREQUENCIES, AS APPLICABLE AND PUBLISHED IN ERC/ERSA. ACFT SUBJECT TO EMERG CONDITIONS SHOULD BROADCAST ON THE PUBLISHED AREA FREQUENCY AND IF NO RESPONSE FROM CENTRE ON THE APPLICABLE AREA FREQUENCY ATTEMPT TO CONTACT CENTRE ON CONTROL FREQUENCIES OR FLIGHTWATCH ON FLIGHTWATCH FREQUENCIES (HF 3461, 6565, 8822, VHF 124.15 PD AREA). FLIGHTWATCH, SARTIME NOMINATION/CANCELLATION IS AVAILABLE ON PUBLISHED FLIGHTWATCH FREQUENCIES. PICTORIAL AVAILABLE AVFAX CODE 81523 FROM 08 290800 TO 08 291100 |
The funny thing is that my wife who was a radar and procedural FPC with OJTI can't even get a look in.
She took redundancy a few years ago and wouldn't mind going back now she has had our babies and they are not even remotely interested. She had 11 years on the job and was never suspended - go figure! |
DHC Driver, the problem with your missus, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, is that in the past 5 years the equipment, procedures and documents have all changed significantly, and she is out of date.
The training sectrion of AsA advise that to train even an experienced controller like your wife, who has been out of the job for 5 years or more, will take about the same time as training an ab-initio controller. That is, 12 - 18 months. The training for the new equipment alone (TAAATS) would take about a month. Any new rating takes 6 - 12 weeks. This is on top of any revision she'd have to do for being out of the job for so long. However, it is most iritating that AsA doesn't have an "experienced controller" program. Controllers like your wife, who have been out of the job for a period, and want to come back in, must be better than any newbie simply because they have a track record. They have already proved they can do the job. There is far less of a gamble that they will not re-rate as a controller. I would suggest your wife contact the centre managers in each centre if she really wants to do ATC again. Greg Hood in ML is crying out for staff. |
....wouldn't mind going back now she has had our babies and they are not even remotely interested. (Sorry, DHC, couldn't resist!) |
The Ronnie Raygun cure.
There is always the option to leave, I'm sure a highly skilled talented bunch of blokes could walk into employment anywhere else immediately.
What was the outcome a couple of years ago in the states? Ronnie Raygun got rid of the whingers. tobzalp and uncommon, on another thread you blokes were having a go at people questioning the status quo, you should take your own advice. |
If I in anyway comprehended your point I would respond.
Therefore: . |
Bloody kids. Calling the shots and they haven't even started kindy. Outrageous!
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Our favourite SUPER MORON is back with absolutely no point but plenty of bitter and twisted moaning. Replaced those spars in that fictitional aircraft of yours yet? I'll dob you in you bastard if you haven't.
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If someone higher up the food chain told the so called "managers" to do some shifts at the coal face, they might determine that the "overstaffing" was not working out too well.
I wonder whether their priority would be the bonus, or doing doggos while the workers were at home. |
Ah, management bonuses. What happens when the system is running well and as efficiently as possible? We get to start sacking the managers? :}
Cheers, NFR. |
Mature and thoughtful replies as usual boys.
If disaster ensuses from the "Understaffing" who is going to be responsible? The bosses for sending overworked (your spin) people to work? The workers for going to work tired and fatigued? Duty of care being the all consuming thing it is nowdays, who is going to wear the blame? Surely if you know your fatigued and stressed aren't you breaching your duty of care if you go to work? In all seriousness if something does happen the boys at the bottom are the only ones who will take the blame. The choices are straightforward, if your tired don't go to work if the stress and overworking persist, change careers. What good is earning big bucks if your not around to spend them. |
Seriously people, just add Super Cecil to your ignore list. He/she is just the most recent of the AOPA sacrificial lambs on this site. The others all post non stop about how they do not read it on another. If there was ever a group of people that should stick to other things it is them.
I have been off from work for 36 hours and no calls. This pleases me. |
"If you don't like the way CASA and DOTARS etc run aviation, GET OUT OF IT."
Owen Stanley or En-Rooter or Uncommon Sense or whoever your calling yourself at the moment, If you don't like your job, get out, nobodys holding a gun to your head. Take your own advice, stop whinging. |
See what I mean? Thanks for the help Super Cecil.
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