Qantas to Reduce Staff
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BLO MOI- If you read the post I did say that lots of F/O hours didn't guarantee you a job. I also said that getting a job with someone like Dragonair ,if you didn't have Airbus time ,would probably require someone on the inside vouching for you. You did say that 6 AN F/O's got into Dragon without Airbus time, by anyones reckoning thats not a lot out of 800. As for contract work if its your scene its fine. If it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling to think that 3 shiny QF stripes will allow you to walk into a job anywhere in the world if QF went under then ignorance is bliss.
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Ultralights - that is a stupid post. If you are made redundant, when things improve ( which should be sooner rather than later ), you will be first back on. Qantas are still interviewing for further intakes so they still expect to take pilots in the not too distant future .Alot of the senior Captains have been made redundant in the past ( sometimes twice ) and they have now had long and successful careers.
And don't lower yourself into the gutter with comments like "so Dixon , are you going ......." .Leave that to other professions to name call and treat people with disrespect.
He has a done a pretty good job ,and maybe without his work , you wouldn't have had a job in the first place.
P.S I hope you and all others escape any redundancies that may occur.
And don't lower yourself into the gutter with comments like "so Dixon , are you going ......." .Leave that to other professions to name call and treat people with disrespect.
He has a done a pretty good job ,and maybe without his work , you wouldn't have had a job in the first place.
P.S I hope you and all others escape any redundancies that may occur.
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Atta boy Geoff!!
Cut those numbers & lets see the share price rise! We shareholders have got to make the staff understand that, at the end of the day, we can't be getting returns when there are so many of them. Keep it coming Geoff!
Cut those numbers & lets see the share price rise! We shareholders have got to make the staff understand that, at the end of the day, we can't be getting returns when there are so many of them. Keep it coming Geoff!
And you'll find its basically impossible(financially) to return to a company you were previously made redudant from( for a few years) because of taxation related problems. If you return you return as a casual contractor, with none of the usual benefits of being a staff member.......ie no travel, no nothing. If you believe the you'll be re-employed when things improve line you'll believe anything.....I don't even believe such a thing was even mentioned by Dixon. Once your gone your gone, and if you come back it's as a contrator on nothing like you were on without any of the benefits
I can see his point on the other issue, if the company is finding it necessary to shed a lot of staff, Dixon and other senior management should at least except a pay cut or not recieve a bonus or have at least some loss of income, the bosses of United have all taken huge cuts as the company is in trouble...
I can see his point on the other issue, if the company is finding it necessary to shed a lot of staff, Dixon and other senior management should at least except a pay cut or not recieve a bonus or have at least some loss of income, the bosses of United have all taken huge cuts as the company is in trouble...
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I think most of us at QF don't really know what to make of Geoff Dixon.
We all know that he is a tough, agressive manager who would be an extremely difficult adversary in industrial matters. But he has also been responsible for the biggest expansion of QF in recent times, and is very ambitious with his future plans for Qantas.
So what are we to make of him? Personally, I wish him well for his expansion plans. A strong profitable company is the best way for me to secure a long-term future. I just hope that the pie is divided amongst the workers when Iraq, SARS, recession etc wear off and the money starts to roll in again.
To me, loyalty to shareholders and customers is misplaced. The shareholders would sell stock in a heartbeat if they felt under financial pressure, and most pax would swap airlines in an instant to save a few bucks. Being loyal to your workers seems to be a mantra that (except for Richard Branson) has disappeared form the management textbooks. Hopefully, Geoff still has a bit of loyalty left for us.
We all know that he is a tough, agressive manager who would be an extremely difficult adversary in industrial matters. But he has also been responsible for the biggest expansion of QF in recent times, and is very ambitious with his future plans for Qantas.
So what are we to make of him? Personally, I wish him well for his expansion plans. A strong profitable company is the best way for me to secure a long-term future. I just hope that the pie is divided amongst the workers when Iraq, SARS, recession etc wear off and the money starts to roll in again.
To me, loyalty to shareholders and customers is misplaced. The shareholders would sell stock in a heartbeat if they felt under financial pressure, and most pax would swap airlines in an instant to save a few bucks. Being loyal to your workers seems to be a mantra that (except for Richard Branson) has disappeared form the management textbooks. Hopefully, Geoff still has a bit of loyalty left for us.
Gents, rather than pissing in each others pockets about what widebody/ Airbus/ command experience will get you a job elsewhere, perhaps you should the consider the repution of your current employer within the marketplace. Unfortunately, the few Qf pilots who have ventured outside the Qf womb, have done nothing to enhance the professional reputation of their former colleagues. This I would suggest, will pose a bigger impediment to your future employment than your lack of experience. Cheers,
Three bars - how do you propose that Richard Branson is loyal to his staff - by throwing them a party once a year, turning up around the place dressed up & generally acting like a goose? Or is it by paying them way below industry standard wages AND somehow convincing them to PAY for the privilege...?
I simply fail to see how RB can be painted as the saviour of aviation in Australia by so many people. Perhaps someone can explain to me how he gets away with it...?
I simply fail to see how RB can be painted as the saviour of aviation in Australia by so many people. Perhaps someone can explain to me how he gets away with it...?
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Ultralights - that is a stupid post. If you are made redundant, when things improve ( which should be sooner rather than later ), you will be first back on.
Even when things Improve, i dont think i want to work for QF again!
I have been there 17 Yrs now, and not seen a pay rise in 6!
there cutting the young blood and keeping the dead wood, and not to mention "jobs for the boys" is rampent. not surprising when the new engineers from NZ and South Africa get to the top of their pay scales in 18 Months, and guys that have been there more than 10 yrs get nothing.
Morale? whats that?
