Can't VB get Oz Pilots?
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Can't VB get Oz Pilots?
I'm an Australian 737 pilot working in the U.K.
I've just heard that there are two non Aussie pilots within my company alone who have interviews with VB.
Aren't there enough pilots floating around in Oz who could do with the job, let alone the ones (myself included) who have the experience and would love to get back home?
I've just heard that there are two non Aussie pilots within my company alone who have interviews with VB.
Aren't there enough pilots floating around in Oz who could do with the job, let alone the ones (myself included) who have the experience and would love to get back home?
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They obviously have the right of residence in said country, just like you. If not, why don't you direct your complaint to the Oz Dept. of Immigration.
This cry baby wants all the cake and not share any.
This cry baby wants all the cake and not share any.
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Sooty,
I hear your pain but the irony won't be lost on any British pilots.
I hear your pain but the irony won't be lost on any British pilots.
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I agree that fairs fair. There are plenty of Oz pilots in the UK and if you have residency rights why not give it a go.
My point is that there are plenty of out of work pilots in Australia. These guys are being chosen I guess because they have command experience on type. Surely there are enough pilots within VB who are suitable for command. Or if they need FO's I'm sure there is definately no shortage of candidiates in Australia.
My point is that there are plenty of out of work pilots in Australia. These guys are being chosen I guess because they have command experience on type. Surely there are enough pilots within VB who are suitable for command. Or if they need FO's I'm sure there is definately no shortage of candidiates in Australia.
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There remain over 500 Airline Jet experienced (at least 5yrs) pilots un-employed in Australia.
Ironic how Capt J.R. screamed bloody murder when foreign pilots were used during the dispute and yet he is now guilty of the same.
Worst still that the pilots he refuses to employ had nothing to do with the "event". Those who did have not bothered to apply to V.B..
Ironic how Capt J.R. screamed bloody murder when foreign pilots were used during the dispute and yet he is now guilty of the same.
Worst still that the pilots he refuses to employ had nothing to do with the "event". Those who did have not bothered to apply to V.B..
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Yep Its TRUE
Virgin Blue has a serious grudge on Ansett Pilots especially Captains even those of the non-scab Variety.
The recruitment Department will never return calls and there is no way to break down the barriers.
JR hates them real bad, its kind of like we had to leave the country in 89 and now all of you from Ansett have too because you had it too good for too long.
I wonder how he will get back at the Qantas Scabs and Pilots, I mean you cant just pick on the ANSETT guys or are you really that weak....
The recruitment Department will never return calls and there is no way to break down the barriers.
JR hates them real bad, its kind of like we had to leave the country in 89 and now all of you from Ansett have too because you had it too good for too long.
I wonder how he will get back at the Qantas Scabs and Pilots, I mean you cant just pick on the ANSETT guys or are you really that weak....
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Errr, I may be mistaken but I guess he just feels that it was the Ansett returnees, plus all those who took jobs after, that did him out of his job.
He may feel no resentment towards any Qantas pilot. I understand it was mainly the Ansett Pilots testimony in the court case that won the day for not re-employing the dispute pilots.
I guess the good bit of being the boss is you get to pick and choose who you want to employ.
I know a lot of pilots with significant jet experience, who never worked for Ansett, that can't get past first base as well.
The ex Ansett blokes are not alone.
He may feel no resentment towards any Qantas pilot. I understand it was mainly the Ansett Pilots testimony in the court case that won the day for not re-employing the dispute pilots.
I guess the good bit of being the boss is you get to pick and choose who you want to employ.
I know a lot of pilots with significant jet experience, who never worked for Ansett, that can't get past first base as well.
The ex Ansett blokes are not alone.
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Can't EZY get UK Pilots?
I'm UK 737 pilot working in Oz.
I've just heard that there are two non UK pilots within my company alone who have interviews with easyJet.
Aren't there enough pilots floating around in the UK who could do with the job, let alone the ones (myself included) who have the experience and would love to get back home?
I'm UK 737 pilot working in Oz.
I've just heard that there are two non UK pilots within my company alone who have interviews with easyJet.
Aren't there enough pilots floating around in the UK who could do with the job, let alone the ones (myself included) who have the experience and would love to get back home?
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If any pilot can satisfy both Company AND Country employment requirements and get a good job - then good luck to him/her no matter where the job is. Remember the law is the law.
Sure, 1989 in Oz was bad for those involved. Some stuck to their principals and some didn't.
I have no problem with anyone(almost) working legally in any Country for any Company. Fortunately I work for a small company that utilises existing employees when vetting applicants, I have no problem with that.
Therefore whatever critera J.R. wants to use (blue eyes, red hair or ....) to vet his employee's is up to him. You all can talk about it but it all means zip.
Have a nice day.
Sure, 1989 in Oz was bad for those involved. Some stuck to their principals and some didn't.
I have no problem with anyone(almost) working legally in any Country for any Company. Fortunately I work for a small company that utilises existing employees when vetting applicants, I have no problem with that.
Therefore whatever critera J.R. wants to use (blue eyes, red hair or ....) to vet his employee's is up to him. You all can talk about it but it all means zip.
Have a nice day.
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BIK-whatever....
A Beech 1900 F/O from Impulse, 2000hrs total, 23yrs old and an ex-An "politically-correct" EFIS Jet Capt., 37yrs old, with lets say 12,000hrs mostly Airline Jet exp.
YOU are interviewing for candidates who will be upgraded to NG Capt. within six months. On paper who do you choose?
Well the Jet Capt. (good bloke too) was never interviewed and the the Impulse F/O failed his upgrade. Such is the wisdom of J.R. and your decree of best man for the job.
This FACT has been repeated many, many times recently.
A Beech 1900 F/O from Impulse, 2000hrs total, 23yrs old and an ex-An "politically-correct" EFIS Jet Capt., 37yrs old, with lets say 12,000hrs mostly Airline Jet exp.
YOU are interviewing for candidates who will be upgraded to NG Capt. within six months. On paper who do you choose?
Well the Jet Capt. (good bloke too) was never interviewed and the the Impulse F/O failed his upgrade. Such is the wisdom of J.R. and your decree of best man for the job.
This FACT has been repeated many, many times recently.
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The Golden Rule - He who has the gold makes the rules!
Charming ... must remember that one if I have to fly a desk one day 
Good point on international employment BIK, it's becoming more prevalent in many industries now not just Aviation - Travel, Hospitality, Tourism, Technology to name a few. Don't see it changing in the short to mid term.
It's an increasingly small world we live in now - better get used to it everyone. Best to hop up off one's own sorry ass and get a wriggle on if one wants to get somewhere in the world today. Nothing much gets handed out on a platter these days, least of all pilot jobs - right Reddo?
(and that's not implying you have a sorry ass ma'am!
... that wouldn't happen to be a SH36 seat you've been sitting in 
)(edited to keep BIK from stringing me up by the short and curlies
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Hell, our company is full of expat Ozzies and Kiwi's, I myself was even born down under, why shouldnt VB look at anyone who meets the minimum employment criteria, no matter what the nationality?
Sounds a bit hypocritical from here, besides wasnt it a "pom" who gave the VB drivers a job in the first place?
Sounds a bit hypocritical from here, besides wasnt it a "pom" who gave the VB drivers a job in the first place?
