Can't VB get Oz Pilots?

[redsnail]

Cross Check, yep, it's a Shed seat.
Bloody glad I was going to Belfast last night instead of Dublin... The fog was a shocker.

[Ralph the Bong]

I just read in interesting and perhaps relevent line from a Management text book: "When selecting the right people, hire for attitude , personality and character, not just job skill". I too, wouldn't mind a job at Virgin and have skills, enthusiasm and qualifications to be a great company asset. I would imagine many out there would think the same of themselves. However, until an employer actually extends a job offer to me or anyone out there, the best course of action is to continue with your own plans. Best of luck to you, Sooty.

[E.P.]

BIK

In the real world non-jet experienced pilots are not upgraded to NG Capts after six months, whether you are the C.P.s son or not.

I agree with the "he who is king" however, surely you would choose the most experienced, qualified and in VBs case, politically correct candidates first and work your way down? Not start at the bottom and look overseas?

Dear Kaptain

Please feel for the forlorn QF cadets who started very young and made the fatal misjudgement of leaving for AN. Also the Cathay, Air Pacific, etc pilots who did the same. (Average 700hrs a year) All very politically correct (rejoining around Nov. 1990) and yet no banana.

[Snowballs]

E.P.
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Please feel for the forlorn QF cadets who started very young and made the fatal misjudgement of leaving for AN. Also the Cathay, Air Pacific, etc pilots who did the same. (Average 700hrs a year) All very politically correct (rejoining around Nov. 1990) and yet no banana.
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Unfortunately very sad, but in the real world, you would have to expect VB, or any potential employer, to suspect these guys may go chasing bananas again and likewise may be tempted to leave VB if a better job comes along. Almost without exception, employers will carefully look at someone’s employment record. They are after a stable workforce and are suspicious of people who chase perceived better jobs. The airline avaition industry is based on long term commitment by its employees.

[YardGlass]

I find it a bit hard to beleive QF cadets left for AN. Sideways step. (at the time!) Is this true? Keg?

[Cross Check]

Yeah but ...

E.P.

They are after a stable workforce and are suspicious of people who chase perceived better jobs. The airline avaition industry is based on long term commitment by its employees.

For the World's present low-cost carriers, surely the percentage of the "this is just a stepping stone" crew is (and would be expected to be) much higher than that of a national flag carrier given the disparity in terms and conditions between such operators? Why else would these carriers then expect you to rock up on their doorsteps type-rating in hand? It's surely not just because they want to save on the training costs - management can be short-sighted, but don't tell me they're that shallow.

The only carrier that I can presume, with a comfortably degree of certainty, that really has high levels of loyalty is Southwest ... but then they're statistically so close to being a "flag carrier" why would crews want to leave - especially given the state of the US national flag carriers.

Reddo - Ah, but is it a comfy Shed seat ... that's the question?
FG tell me about it ... FZFG @ LYBE a few weeks back ... I can see the bleeding RWY from 3000 overhead and RVR is 200m decreasing The whole week ... starts at 2200 goes until 1000

[Ralph the Bong]

I know 4 ex QF guys who were at AN just off the top of my head. None were cadets though. These 4 expressed common themes regarding their reasons for leaving: Promotional prospects, time away from home and a more egalitarian corporate culture at AN.

[E.P.]

YARDGLASS

So good to see pilots with their head up their ass.

Snowballs

Same applies. How many VB pilots have an application in with Dragonair? 270 I hear you say?.........good guess 'ol chum.

[redsnail]

Cross Check

Yeah, it is reasonably comfy. Just found out I got a Dusseldorf day stop this week. Cheap grog.

[G.Khan]

And just how much cheap grog can you get into your 'shed' Red?

Do you go by weight or does it volume out?

[redsnail]

G.Khan,
If postioning back, about 3.5 tonnes. However, I think Customs and Excise might get upset. So, it's usually whatever I can stuff in my overnight bag. Works out about 1/3 or more off retail prices in the UK.