Palace Coup at QF?
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Palace Coup at QF?
Word has it that the King of the Domestic Cowboys also known affectionately as S.... S... and the pilot union have combined forces to topple the current QF Chief Pilot.
The aim is to move S.... S... into the position.
It is all over a recent LOSA report which contained damaging findings on the 737 operation.
The fleet Capt was "replaced" however the whisper is the real issue is S.... S...'s performance when he was Fleet Captain on the type at the time of the merger.
He was responsible for training these poor performers at the time of the 89 "dispute".
The aim is to move S.... S... into the position.
It is all over a recent LOSA report which contained damaging findings on the 737 operation.
The fleet Capt was "replaced" however the whisper is the real issue is S.... S...'s performance when he was Fleet Captain on the type at the time of the merger.
He was responsible for training these poor performers at the time of the 89 "dispute".
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It gets worse,
Apparently our 'export-import' to AN and back who is presently in a senior non-flying job is pushing the board very hard to get the job.
I have heard the CP is a short duck - but I cant see AIPA backing a 'hero' - the COM is quietly, but continuosly looking to settle scores.
Apparently our 'export-import' to AN and back who is presently in a senior non-flying job is pushing the board very hard to get the job.
I have heard the CP is a short duck - but I cant see AIPA backing a 'hero' - the COM is quietly, but continuosly looking to settle scores.
Nunc est bibendum
I think the boss's tenure is up about mid this year anyway.
There are 1001 different variables but I reckon a dark horse is a former AIPA president. Gets on well with the board, respected on BOTH sides- crews and company- and could well be a 'unifying' force at a time when the workplace can hardly be classified as 'unified'.
The other bloke? Talk about red rag to a pretty tense bull!!
Interesting times.
There are 1001 different variables but I reckon a dark horse is a former AIPA president. Gets on well with the board, respected on BOTH sides- crews and company- and could well be a 'unifying' force at a time when the workplace can hardly be classified as 'unified'.
The other bloke? Talk about red rag to a pretty tense bull!!
Interesting times.
Keg,
You might find a former AIPA president has an even slightly higher position in sight. Just a wisper but as you said he does get on well with the boss.
338C, Nope the LOSA report was not damaging to the 737 fleet. Some deficiencies were identified and are now being fixed - part of the companies QA process. This is a constructive process. To not look at one's naval would be damaging.
I wonder when we may hear the LOSA result of the countries other 737 operator?
You might find a former AIPA president has an even slightly higher position in sight. Just a wisper but as you said he does get on well with the boss.
338C, Nope the LOSA report was not damaging to the 737 fleet. Some deficiencies were identified and are now being fixed - part of the companies QA process. This is a constructive process. To not look at one's naval would be damaging.
I wonder when we may hear the LOSA result of the countries other 737 operator?
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Interesting to see how certain low cost carriers would compare as they have not done a LOSA audit of such dimensions as yet.
Not saying anything but if the same audits were conducted on everyone then this would be a much better picture.
Not saying anything but if the same audits were conducted on everyone then this would be a much better picture.
short flights long nights
Sorry to ask a stupid question...but what is LOSA?
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I recieved an email with a "hotmail" address from somebody who purports to be "close to the action" suggesting that the identities of those the subject of this post would be too well and easily known.
As is often the case the hotmail address bounced back, but I am providing below a copy of the exchange with all of the "mailer -daemon" stuff edited out.
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Thank you for the heads up.
I am very aware and I can assure you that I am keeping a very close watch on it.
I am not in QF nor do I like most here, have any idea who the individual people are and I would suggest to you that neither does anyone not involved directly in QF either except perhaps those others in the "know" in the industry.
I guess what I'm saying is that it would hardly be a secret within.
Either way as long as it is anonymous people can guess all they
like, as it is the nature of the beast to share these tid bits.
I suspect the positive side of whatever is actually going down is
that QF are seen to be still actively pursuing and improving their safety and quality agenda.
For that to be actually seen to be happening, notwithstanding the delicacy required in handling the people, is no bad thing.
When more than one person knows about something, I am reminded of
the joke question that asks "how do you know when there is an elephant hiding in the fridge?"
Cheers
Woomera
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Fair comment OK!
And before anybody jumps in about 'QF' getting different treatment to 'DJ', remember we try very hard to discriminate "equally" here.
As is often the case the hotmail address bounced back, but I am providing below a copy of the exchange with all of the "mailer -daemon" stuff edited out.
*****
Thank you for the heads up.
I am very aware and I can assure you that I am keeping a very close watch on it.
I am not in QF nor do I like most here, have any idea who the individual people are and I would suggest to you that neither does anyone not involved directly in QF either except perhaps those others in the "know" in the industry.
I guess what I'm saying is that it would hardly be a secret within.
Either way as long as it is anonymous people can guess all they
like, as it is the nature of the beast to share these tid bits.
I suspect the positive side of whatever is actually going down is
that QF are seen to be still actively pursuing and improving their safety and quality agenda.
For that to be actually seen to be happening, notwithstanding the delicacy required in handling the people, is no bad thing.
When more than one person knows about something, I am reminded of
the joke question that asks "how do you know when there is an elephant hiding in the fridge?"
Cheers
Woomera
Reported Post "QF Palace Coup"
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>This is the reason that the user gave:
>I mentioned this post to someone I know that may be considered
"guilty by association" -with its content.
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>Obviously the person referred to is open to interpretation from all and sundry?
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>We tread on some very "soft ground" as ppruners.I think we should
let this post die a natural death ASAP.
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>Sincerely,
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>****
Fair comment OK!
And before anybody jumps in about 'QF' getting different treatment to 'DJ', remember we try very hard to discriminate "equally" here.
Nunc est bibendum
Thaht was Mud Skipper, not me Lancer.
I may be a bit of a cynic but everything changes and nothing changes. I'm hopeing for the day when someone in QF proves me wrong!
The funny thins is W is that I have absolutely no idea who the bloke referred to in 338Cs post is and I can't be bothered looking up the seniorority list to narrow it down!
I may be a bit of a cynic but everything changes and nothing changes. I'm hopeing for the day when someone in QF proves me wrong!
The funny thins is W is that I have absolutely no idea who the bloke referred to in 338Cs post is and I can't be bothered looking up the seniorority list to narrow it down!
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Woomera,
S...S and William Shatnet are both mysteries to me..
This thread identifies less than some of the others I have read.
Wouldn't surprise me if the ex AIPA pres got the job...god knows everyone else has used the COM as a mechansim to management and to stabbing the rest of pilot body in the back with their inside knowledge
S...S and William Shatnet are both mysteries to me..
This thread identifies less than some of the others I have read.
Wouldn't surprise me if the ex AIPA pres got the job...god knows everyone else has used the COM as a mechansim to management and to stabbing the rest of pilot body in the back with their inside knowledge
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I remember when the current CP was the boss on the 737 fleet just a VERY few years back, and well AFTER those pesky "89" joining pilots had been around for a few years. He seemed happy with the operation then, even bringing in a few changes of his own to make himself even happier.
Any LOSA identified problems are minor and part of any ongoing improvement. Call it Product Improvement.
Let those who are without fault cast the first stone.
Any LOSA identified problems are minor and part of any ongoing improvement. Call it Product Improvement.
Let those who are without fault cast the first stone.
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Any LOSA identified problems are minor and part of any ongoing improvement
Accepting the problem exists it half way to fixing it.
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anakin...it wasn't L J Hooker....
Woomera...perhaps a few more postings of edited highlights from your complaints bin might bring it home to some? Might lessen your overall workload too!
Woomera...perhaps a few more postings of edited highlights from your complaints bin might bring it home to some? Might lessen your overall workload too!
Surely "George Jetson" of Ansett fame not being considered for the Chief Pilot position.
Same bloke who totally bungled the CRJ intro and had the hubris to get into a totally unprofessional pissing competition with Mr Toller at CASA, with the Xmas and Easter consequences.
Captain Jetson's trail of destruction would not be complete without a good crack at QF.
Dixon isn't that stupid though, which is why I will hold onto my QF shares.
Same bloke who totally bungled the CRJ intro and had the hubris to get into a totally unprofessional pissing competition with Mr Toller at CASA, with the Xmas and Easter consequences.
Captain Jetson's trail of destruction would not be complete without a good crack at QF.
Dixon isn't that stupid though, which is why I will hold onto my QF shares.