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Old 6th Dec 2002, 21:05
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IF you want to be really picky then the title is wrong too.

It should say, as it does in the text, "Qantas picks up its first Airbus", they are a little late to pick up the FIRST Airbus.....

Anyway, good luck to them with the A330 operation.
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It's not that wrong, it said "it's first Airbus", not "the first Airbus"
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Puff,
It has nothing to do with "QF has never 'picked up' a new aircraft" but rather "Having flown rival Boeing jets for its entire history", that is wrong. Qantas has flown Airbus jets in it's past.
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Gafa,

The A300 never belonged to QF. It was owned by aust scab airways
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fartsock.......give it a rest, QF bought TN and so owned and operated the A300.

Now if anyone wants to be picky, what about the two HS125s QF used for training!

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Yeah and the HS125 that did a wheels up, oh hang on, was that the Dept one.??

Saw the pic of the newie in the paper this am looks pretty cool.
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Gaunty I'm ready to be shot down but I think it was the CAA (DCA?) aircraft that did the wheels up!
I agree, I saw a picture of the "newie" transiting SIN and it looked great.
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First QF 332 operation I can find in Amadeus is QF408 03JAN MELSYD 0700 0820 and 1005 SYDBNE the same day.

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VH-EBA will operate across to PER on 02 Jan.
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It'll be here on Sat I think on a "proving flight" might just get my anorak out and go stand at the fence.

RaTa I think you're right is was the DCA one. Ahhhhh they were the good old days, when the Dept was properly resourced and the FOIs didn't have to beg, or moonlight to stay current.
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They plan to use the first A330 on an "ad-hoc" basis throughout December to give Flight, Cabin and Ground Crews experience with the aircraft prior to its full introduction on 2nd Jan. Keep an eye on your Res system and you might be able to give us a heads-up on where it is going to be. GB
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Schedules

Effective March 4, 2003, operating double daily Mel-Per services

Mel-Per: QF 485 dep Mel 8:20, arr Per 9:20
QF 481 dep Mel 18:10, arr Per 19:10

Per-Mel: QF 802 dep Per 10:20, arr Mel 16:40
QF 648 dep Per 22:50, arr Mel 5:10 +1

both 332s replacing existing 767 services, representing an increase in capacity.



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both 332s replacing existing 767 services, representing an increase in capacity.
Not really as 2 each way were downgraded from B767 to B737 from the 27 Oct summer schedule change as a result of the AWAS aircraft going back and 4 B767s going to Australian.
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PD, in fact 2 x 767s were replaced by 3 x 737s, not 2 for 2 as you stated. But in any case, that is history now. Due to the 332 introduction, March capacity on Per-Mel is much more than the Feb capacity, thus representing an increase in capacity!

- Oct: 3 x 737, 4 x 767
Nov-Feb: 6 x 737, 2 x 767
Mar - : 6 x 737, 2 x 332

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betedete,

Sorry for the slow response, but I only just saw the thread since your posting.

PLEASE read what I said.

THE TITLE.............

IF you want to be really picky then the title is wrong too.

It should say, as it does in the text, "Qantas picks up its first Airbus", they are a little late to pick up the FIRST Airbus.....

Anyway, good luck to them with the A330 operation.

Best regards,

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Quote:

"Qantas said the A330-200 boasted the quietest cabin in flight of any domestic aircraft, greater elbow room and head room, and larger overhead baggage lockers - but not more leg room.

Airbus usually puts 293 seats in A330-200 aircraft across two classes - 30 business and 263 economy - but Qantas is squeezing in an extra 10 seats, 38 business and 265 economy."


Source: SMH net service on [email protected] 20/12/02

I was looking forward to the odd trip ex-Brisbane on the A330 but as I'm 6'2" the above news ain't welcome. I would have thought the A330's supposed superior cabin comfort was a genuine opportunity for product differentiation. Pity.
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Old 20th Dec 2002, 08:56
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Ahh, the Media.....

If QF introduced Spacebeds onto Dash 8s or lobster in Y class they would still find something to whinge about it if they wanted too! The same could be said for some people on this forum (not you dghob... just a general observation ).

What SMH fails to mention is that QF is using slimline seats in both classes. Most airlines with the A330 are long haul and therefore use different seats for J class which are thicker. Also there would be more pitch required as their operations are long haul. There isn't all that many airlines that use seats as slim as the ones used by QF. Also QF ordered the A330 with smaller galley units at the forward and mid positions. Also the rear galley is smaller as the toilets cut into it. A lot of A330 operators have the rear most toilets in the cabin, effectively taking away the last row of seats thus creating more galley stowage.

Finally the SMH doesn't seem to mention that the seat pitch in Y is world standard 31"....

Postives Positives Positives
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Latest rumour is that QF only taking first three 330,holding off on the rest to see what happens with United,possibly cancel options for the rest of the 330 and take United 777
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Old 22nd Dec 2002, 07:50
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Noticed the new bird doing a missed approach off runway 16 at YMML the other day.
ATC induced or did the boys get the profile wrong?
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Old 22nd Dec 2002, 08:45
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Peter T....... as much as a lot of us wish the rumour were true, I doubt it will happen. To bring in a totaly new type at this stage would not work.
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